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Posted 13 April 2012 - 05:12 PM

View Postjeremyb, on 13 April 2012 - 09:45 AM, said:

the way I see it, we are still evolving.

That’s the way nearly all credible biologists see it, too, for about the last 50 years. More, for about the last 5 years, evidence increasingly and strongly suggests humans are evolving at a much faster rate – perhaps by a factor as great as 100 – in the last 40,000 and 10,000 years than in the previous several 100,000.

The idea that our species evolution had stopped was due to a poor understanding by the person who started, and thus titled, this thread, which was debunked at length in earlier posts.

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give us another hundred thousand years of sitting down at our computers or watching tv for long periods of time, and im pretty sure something is bound to change.

You left “while eating increasingly processed food” out of your description, Jermyb.

What we eat seems to be as or likely more important a shaper of our recent evolution as what we do, as the most dramatic changes in the human population are a decrease in size of our brains (and thus, to the amount of food needed to feed each of us) and changes to our gut and digestive biochemistry to allow us to eat foods we produce ourselves at greater rates than wild environments.

These ideas have been widely discussed on the internet, in this very thread and others, such as this one. A good, though dated, pro blog page on it is John Hawkes’s Why human evolution accelerated.

History recent and old shows us that entertainment mediums rarely last for than a century, let alone a hundred thousand years, so I doubt we’ll be sitting around our computers and TV very long – but trends in agriculture and food are very persistent and progressive.

All this biological extrapolation assumes that the wilder speculation of extropians and transhumansist don’t accurately foretell our future, and that we don’t soon forsake our biological mediums for a vastened living in silico. While history shows that most utopian movements don’t, I think “computer immortality” prophecies are unprecedented, as prior to the last century, there were no actual, or to a great extent, even the idea of, life-simulating computers.


View PostPincho Paxton, on 13 April 2012 - 10:14 AM, said:

I have evolved from humans, so we are still evolving. Check me out, an entirely new super brain! B)

Pincho! :naughty: Quips like this are not only quips, they promote misconceptions about evolutionary biology! There’s enough of this in popular media, society, and the internet, without our site, which seeks to promote the understanding of science, encouraging it.

By definition, biological evolution is a change of characteristics of a population of individuals of the same species across successive generations, so unless you are actually something like, say, a termite colony that has amazingly evolved the ability to impersonate a human being on the internet, saying “I have evolved” is, in a biological sense, simply wrong.

Individual organisms of most species change from birth through adulthood, but this change is just change – physical growth and mental learning, sometimes injury, and inevitably illness – not evolution.

I think the terminology-handling parts of that super brain of yours needs some tuning/learning!
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