[belovelife]

as far as galaxy formation with hydrogen
its cold out there
and the hydrogen was probly solid
wouldn't it take some sort of energy to add heat
so if there was a larger gravitational spot
(possibly created by billions of billions of years of hydrogen
being bound together and finally bonding on an atomic level
or just gravity pulling 2 atoms of hydrogen together and then more combinations of this effect)
then the release of energy in the fusion process would eexert force to
push away hydrogen, but how much force would be involved in the initial reaction
it would push, but then probly contract

now *if the nucleus of atoms are formed of matter and antimatter then a random differential in the
matter-antimatter->energy process could have allowed for the initial fusion

iether way it happened after the intial event, things cooled down again
and gravity did its thing
i think

[belovelife]

now if there were free nutrons floating around then this could be a gravity point

once these collided with hydrogen it produced the second isotope
which was heavier than the first
could this have happend to help with fusion
not sure but if there were free nuetrons they could have right

[belovelife]

well thats the question
**happy new year****
what if the fundimental form of energy is partially magnetic
(for lack of a better word)**[and being different then electrons]
so this "energy"goes back and forth through its inherint properties
itself containing a magnetic role,
then as it condenses it creates matter anti matter pairs
then goes back because of its stability level
then through the billions of years
it changed form
to electrons [through minute fluctuations in the matter-antimatter switching
which could annialate the pair, and induce a change in energy form]
the the first molecule was made
h2
because of the first change to electrons
by change in form of energy
the electron interacted by being attracted
to the "proton" [magnetic pairs of matter-antimatter/other energy]
but it only attracted one per proton, but the level of the firt shell allowed 2 electrons max, based on how many could get that close to the magnetic field
then 2 protons shared 2 electrons and it was at a state of rest because of it
then this allowed more expantion

[belovelife]

this primordial element before electrons got involved could be the key to solving the dark matter issue also
i think

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now wouldn't the change in energy create what we see in star and galaxy formations
you know the big colorful gas clouds
as different energy levels of the gas emirged, then the electron interacted in different ways, being a new form was able to trasfer between energy states quicker, hence photons and stuff

[belovelife]

ok for my perception let me start over
lets start with a cloud of dark matter defined by matter that does not have any electrons connected to any proton
assumptions:
dark matter = nucleus = (ether --->m/am------>ether----->m/am.......etc)+or-(nuetron)
matter = nucleus + electron
ether = primordial form of energy
--------(constantly creating matter/antimatter pairs that are highly unstable
--------so they annialate and form m/am pairs constantly [possibly thousands of
--------times a second])

now for the billions of years the ether did its thing until its first decay
and what i mean by that its first change, similar to electricity changing to photons
but on a harder change level, more similar to natural decay of potassium

now when the first decay occured the proton was now shielded with electrons, and the ether reaction process was stabilized more
as the elctrons were at the same time attracted and repulsed by the continuing formation and annialation of the m/am pairs and the magnetics accociated with it
and since the energy was in ether form more often then m/am pairs
its effect is gravity, observed as a weak force since the energy within the proton is rarely m/am pairs in relation to the amount of time it is ether

[belovelife]

now i;m not sure
but on this line of thinking
the formation of different element could be based on the
electron strength vs proton proton bond strength
and by this i mean, say the protons [in form of dark matter] were bonded in a crystaline pattern
the addition of the electron to the latice may have expanded the lattice
it (electron) having more strength to bond to the proton then the other proton
thus giving pure hydrogen1

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but mabe it only made hydrogen at the outer reaches of the dark matter formation
mabe deepe rinto the cloud of dark matter other elements were created
because the reaction time versus the bond time crunched the matter together into heavier elements
but for it to do so it had to be alot closer to the center
that is why there would be more hydrogen than any other elements
because of the initial reaction was to "popcorn"
the giant dark matter mass, but the electrons move very quick
fast enough to exert enough force to trigger a reaction on the level of fusion
but only at the deep levels, and the deeper into the dark matter mass, the heavier the elements created

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ok so take a region in space [that is not fully developed to our standards of space time] where there is dark matter
and until it reaches a 0 reaction point, it continually emits hydrogen1
now when there is enough of the destabilization of the dark matter [0 point]
it ignights like the pics of new stars/galaxies
thereby fully bending to our shape of spacetime
and lighting all the already made hydrogen that surrounds the affected area

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http://www.nasa.gov/...rple_sm_web.mov

watch this video it is exactly what i am envisioning

[belovelife]

i think this is a revarsal on the current line of thought on the subject

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based on this line of thinking
i hypothesize that if we could fill a chamber with hydrogen and strip all the electrons from them
then we have 3 choices of experimentation
either add nuetrons to a small amount of the stripped hydrogen
see if it destabalises and creates electrons that then create hydrogen again

keep drawing electrons out, see if more electrons are created
hence the more we draw electrons out the more electrons are created until the fuel source (hydrogen) is gone
or
condense the stripped hyrogen and wait to see if it produces electrons naturally(although we may be waiting a long time, but it may destabalise the process of the proton function to react faster, and we may be able to use this as a energy source)

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belovelife said:

ok for my perception let me start over
lets start with a cloud of dark matter defined by matter that does not have any electrons connected to any proton
assumptions:
dark matter = nucleus = (ether --->m/am------>ether----->m/am.......etc)+or-(nuetron)
matter = nucleus + electron
ether = primordial form of energy
--------(constantly creating matter/antimatter pairs that are highly unstable
--------so they annialate and form m/am pairs constantly [possibly thousands of
--------times a second])

now for the billions of years the ether did its thing until its first decay
and what i mean by that its first change, similar to electricity changing to photons
but on a harder change level, more similar to natural decay of potassium

now when the first decay occured the proton was now shielded with electrons, and the ether reaction process was stabilized more
as the elctrons were at the same time attracted and repulsed by the continuing formation and annialation of the m/am pairs and the magnetics accociated with it
and since the energy was in ether form more often then m/am pairs
its effect is gravity, observed as a weak force since the energy within the proton is rarely m/am pairs in relation to the amount of time it is ether

ether-->m/am= impetali
derived from esperanto
impet- energy
ali- change

[belovelife]

now for the billions of years the impetali did its thing until its first decay
and what i mean by that its first change, similar to electricity changing to photons
but on a harder change level, more similar to an electric stove changing electricity to heat
(easy to change to heat, harder to change back)

now when the first decay occured the other impetali was now shielded with electrons, and the impetali reaction process was stabilized more
as the elctrons were at the same time attracted and repulsed by the continuing formation and annialation of the m/am pairs and the magnetics accociated with it
and since the energy was in ether form more often then m/am pairs
its effect is gravity, observed as a weak force since the energy within the proton is rarely m/am pairs in relation to the amount of time it is ether

[belovelife]

i have thought on this subject also
although you throw a new light on the subject
putting the 2 together i get a picture.

ok for sun spots, i have been pondering fusion of the sun
now say you take it like sediment layers
each layer being heavier as you get to the core
now with the heat and pressure together, this causes fusion

for a solar flare, this is like having one part of a rocket engine heating up more than another, causing a localized fusion to occur,
sun spot?
(the new matter formed creates a vacume effect because the fusion process was more eficient then you would think thus taking in heat energy to form the matter) ?

either way (i'm not sure if the vacume for that one in particular is possible because it would then imply that the heat is directly changed to matter)
(this acts like a lightning bolt in reverse pulling heat energy to equalized the affected area)

but for the sun1 -> to sun2

good idea
say in our suns growth, there was a line of growth drawn
at this line, a certain amount of super dense matter was created ( fusion of heavy elements),
then it pulled (gravity) the rest of the sun inward so fast
that the outside (or specific "sediment"layer) cooled enough to harden for a moment, like a shell
when the pressure and heat equalized, it exerted pressure on the the shell
causing a pulse (windows breaking)

although i still see our solar system as a 3 star system
2minor
1 major
and neptune is huge also

just a line of thought
thats where i am

Ideas?