Reconsideration of the Chronology of Egypt
#1
Posted 04 February 2010 - 08:16 PM
E. Lin
The chronology of the Eighteenth Dynasty is not completely satisfactory.
It is currently accepted that Meritaten ruled Egypt for three years after the death of Akhenaten. It seems that the strongest evidence came from Manetho, who gave certain daughter of the king a reign of twelve years and one month. Unfortunately, Manetho’s twelve years was cut down to three, allegedly because the highest attested date was merely three years based on the finding of TT139. I suspect that the real reason is that the chronology, either high or low, was unable to accommodate the twelve-year period without causing major disturbance. Hence, the so-called “spurious decade” might not be any more spurious than the current three-year reign assigned to this Lady of Two Lands, unless it could be demonstrated that adding a decade to the reign had been an established practice of Manetho’s time, or he had a special motivation for doing so in this instance.
In reality, it might not be so difficult to find an answer to all the confusions. Remember the name of the fourth daughter of Akhenaten? It is Neferneferuaten Tasheri, thus her mother must be Neferneferuaten, and that was, of course, Queen Nefertiti. As matter of fact, Akhenaten moved to the new capital Akhetaten (Amarna) in his Year 5. In the same year, Nefertiti adopted the name “Neferneferuaten”. Neferneferuaten Tasheri was born in Year 7. From Akhenaten Year 5 until Akhenaten Year 17, when he died, was exactly twelve years. This period is probably what Manetho referred to when he mentioned the twelve year reign. Of course, it would be coregency starting from the date when they moved to the new capital. As far as the title of king’s daughter, Nefertiti is said to be Princess Tadukhipa from Mitanni, according to some. If that is true, she is certainly entitled to this title. In any event, her facial feature does not resemble that of Ay, if the plaster of Ay is indeed his. Furthermore, Nefertiti and Mutnodjmet do not look like sisters even though they are suppose to be. I suspect that Nefertiti was merely adopted by Ay, if they got anything with each other at all.
At this point, I should mention the Coregency Stela, where Akhenaten, Nefertiti and Meritaten have been identified. The name of Nefertiti was later changed to Ankhkheperure Neferneferuaten, while the name of Meritaten was changed to Ankhesenpaaten. This is consistent with the known name change of Nefertiti to Neferneferuaten, although it is more difficult to explain why the name of Meritaten needs to be replaced.
Regarding the widely quated “graffito” from the Theban Tomb of Pere (TT139), which reads "Year 3, 3rd month of the Inundation, day 10. The king of Upper and Lower Egypt, lord of the Two Lands, Ankhkheprure - beloved of Aten, son of Re, Nefereneferuaten beloved of Waenre (Akhenaten) ... ", “Ankhkheprure” most likely refers to the new pharaoh Smenkhare, since his full name is Smenkhkare Djeserkheperu Ankhkheperure, as far as I know, while Nefereneferuaten (Nefertiti) is his step-mother. Apparently, Smenkhare ruled at least for three years after Akhenaten, while Nefertiti was still alive. Nefereneferuaten obviously means Nefertiti. In this case, the two of them seems to appear together.
The rumor of Nefertiti’s death in Year 14 of Akhenaten is pure speculation. Her disappearance accompanied by the rise of Smenkhkare must be the result of Akhenaten’s decision to pass the throne his own son Smenkhkare rather than her. Another factor to be considered is that Nefertiti would have been merely over thirty years of age if she died in Year 14 of Akhenaten while her celebrated bust suggests an lady over forty. If she survived until the Restoration of Tutankhamun, she would be the right age to account for the statue of the “most beautiful woman in human history”.
Finally, it is not likely that Smenkhkare died immediately after Akhenaten. If his health had been as bad as that, he probably would never be chosen as the successor. All these arrangements look very contrived. It is more convincing if Smenkhkare survived the old pharaoh for a few years. Hence, I suggest assigning the three years between Akhenaten and Tutankhamun to this poor fellow. Thus, the revised chronology would be as follows:
Akhenaten 1353-1336
Neferneferuaten 1349-1336
Smenkhkare 1335-1333
Tutankhamun 1333-1324
#2
Posted 06 February 2010 - 01:33 AM
Taking Tentopet as an example. She is often described as the queen of Ramesses IV and a daughter of Ramesses III. Sometimes she is described as the queen of Ramesses X and a daughter of Ramesses IX. But why all the uncertainties? Because all we know is that she held the titles of King’s Daughter, King’s Wife and King’s Mother, and was buried in QV74. Is that a sufficient ground for placing her in the Twentieth Dynasty? I doubt it. She was dragged into that position simply because there was “vacancies available”. If you look at the map, her tomb was literally surrounded by the tombs from the 18th Dynasty and 19th Dynasty; the two tombs next to hers both belonged to the daughters of Ramesses II. Overall speaking, the QV tombs show a clear trend of clustering by dynasties and by kingships. It is hard to believe that the tomb of Ramesses III’s daughter would be left there while all the other daughters of Ramesses III were placed closed together in the west side of the valley. Now, don’t get me wrong. I am not saying that she couldn’t be married to a 20th Dynasty king; I am just saying that she must be the daughter of a 19th Dyansty king. Therefore, she cannot possibly be the daughter of either Ramesses III or Ramesses IX. As matter of fact, we don’t even know whether Ramesses X is related to Ramesses IX at all, nor do we know about his relation to Ramesses XI. We could place them under any branch of the Ramesses III super-family.
I personally do not consider any of these late-20th Dynasty kings are important, but that doesn’t give one an excuse to come up with a spurious family tree to deceive the beginners. Now, is this a sign that the scholarship in Egyptology has fallen into a new low?
#3
Posted 06 February 2010 - 07:52 AM
#4
Posted 07 February 2010 - 03:09 AM
line said:
Of course, there is no historical record for her after the 14th year of Akhenaten's reign, so who could say one way or another
But, have you considered the shawabti that shows Nefertiti without a pharaoh's attire and essentially calls her a king's wife,
which would presumably be made after her death, no?
~modest
#5
Posted 09 February 2010 - 06:45 PM
Regarding the "shawabti", it is a good question. here, the key is when was it made? If it was made before year 5, then no issue; if made during the 12-year period, then there is an issue; if made after his/her death, then it is a question of recognition. I believe it was made when she was alive; otherwise it would not say "Living for Ever and Ever. " Most shawabti figures are in coffin shape, while this one is not. As far as the attire is concerned, I never expect her to be another Hatshepsut. With that said, I do realize that none of the proposed solutions are perfect. I hope her grave/mummy could be found, then it could help to resolve some of the issues. But I don't expect that to happen since Horemheb must have distroyed it long time ago.
#6
Posted 10 February 2010 - 05:00 AM
The question of how to assign the 12-year period left by a shorter reign of Horemheb remains – that is the implication of Dr Jacobus van Dijk’s finding if it stands up to the test of time. The solution could come from the Flavius version of Manetho’s kinglist, where we find that Acencheres I & II each ruled for 12 years after Rathotis (Tutankhamun), followed by a 4-year reign of Harmais and a quarter of a year under Ramesses of the 19th Dynasty. In the Africanus version and the Busebius version, there are also three rulers between Rathotis and Ramesses, while the current kinglist only gets two. Could the current list miss a ruler?
#7
Posted 17 February 2010 - 12:24 PM
Akhenaten (17 y)
[Neferneferuaten (12 y)]
Smenkhkare (3 y)
Tutankhamun (9 y)
Ay I (? y)
Ay II (Nakhtmin) (? y)
Horemheb (Harmais) 14-15 y
Ramesses I
#8
Posted 17 February 2010 - 01:21 PM
line said:
Mummiform they would call it. Do you have an image of her shawabti? I can't find it.
~modest
#9
Posted 18 February 2010 - 01:31 AM

What I haven't been able to find is the origin of this item. I have some doubt about its authenticity.
#10
Posted 18 February 2010 - 04:49 AM
line said:
No, that is nothing like a shawabti. The arms are always crossed in a shawabti. They are always mummiform.
I found an image of Nefertiti's, or part of it—it's fragmentary. This part is in the Louvre:

Queen Nefertiti
and another part is apparently in Brookyn. It certainly looks like a shawabti to me, and I don't see why it would be made before her death, but I admit it is not a lot of evidence to hang ones hat on. But, given that the historic record ends and this shawabti, I would certainly say she most likely died during his reign.
For a description of what these little statues are and why they made them I'd recommend:
Encyclopedia of the archaeology of ... - Google Books
And, the piece you depicted above, called "Akhenaten and Nefertiti" is talked about here:
Art Through Time: A Global View - Amenhotep IV (Akhenaten) and Nefertiti
~modest
#11
Posted 18 February 2010 - 06:53 PM
Regarding the Luvre statue, the identity must be from the inscription in the front, which is rather brief. it cannot possibly gives the text you quoted (The Heiress, high and mighty in the palace, one trusted [of the King of Upper and Lower Egypt (Neferkheperure, Wa'enre), the son of Re (Akhenaten), Great in] his Lifetime, the Chief Wife of the King (Neferneferuaten-Nefertiti), Living for Ever and Ever.) So where did the text come from?
As far as the record is concerned, we don't know what it means: (1) she died; or (2) she simply changed her name; (3) she was pushed to the backstage. If she died in Year 14, she must be younger than depicted in the Berlin statue, unless she was initially married to Amenhotep III. I am afraid Nefertiti might not be the step-mother of Akhenaten since it is said that Meritaten was born before year one or in the very beginning of year one, which means Akhenaten had to marry his step-mother before his father died. How funny!
For me, the most important point actually is not so much about the death of Nefertiti as it is about the possible missing king between Tutankhamun and Ramesses I. I think there is a need to add Ay II to the list, so it becomes the following:
Akhenaten 17 y
(Neferneferuaten 12 y)
Smenkhkare 3 y
Tutankhamun 9 y
Ay I ???
Ay II (Nakhtmin) ???
Horemheb (Harmais) 14-15 y
Ramesses I
I know Manetho (or someone before him) might have manipulated the numbers; I actually looked into this issue already but have not yet posted it here. I will do that later. But it is less likely that he created Acencheres I and Acencheres II out of blue.
Any way, I do appreciate your interest and replies.
#12
Posted 18 February 2010 - 07:43 PM
line said:
...
Any way, I do appreciate your interest and replies.
hi line.
in support of this, and in fact motivating it, is a recent piece about michelangelo's modifying a statue for the church to include pagan/non-standard symbols. something to consider.
John Mulderig said:
The startling theory about the artist's secret religious views that Forcellino eventually developed to account for these oddities is detailed in his biography, published in an English translation in Britain earlier this year as "Michelangelo: A Turbulent Life," and forthcoming in the U.S. His hypothesis also provides the basis for the thought-provoking "Secrets of the Dead" program "Michelangelo Revealed," which premieres on PBS stations May 13 (check local listings). ...
Michelangelo Revealed ~ Watch the Full Episode | Secrets of the Dead | PBS
#13
Posted 19 February 2010 - 02:57 AM
I know that deviation could occur, but this statue does not give me a feeling of an Egyptian art work. Another alleged Egyptian statue that caused such feeling in my mind is that of Queen Tetisheri of the 17th Dynasty, and it has been accepted as a fake. After a while, you get to know the feeling - what is Egyptian, what is Sumerian, etc. To tell you the truth, this statue reminds me of AH & EB.
Yes, I have formed a habit of scrutinizing archaeological findings since there are so many suspicious stuffs out there. It seems the counterfeit market is booming.
#14
Posted 20 February 2010 - 06:57 AM
line said:
lineo said:
Yes, I have formed a habit of scrutinizing archaeological findings since there are so many suspicious stuffs out there. It seems the counterfeit market is booming.
i figure why would a forger not follow tradition as close as possible? wouldn't the variation make a forgery stand out?
was this a funerary statue? i ask because if this is the effort of a single artist to thumb the nose at authority, then it may have gone straight to a tomb and never had a review by the commissioners.
that's a wrap.
post script:
[quote name=']Turtle shtyw - The turtle was associated with Set' date=' and so with the enemies of Ra who tried to stop the solar barque as it traveled through the underworld. This was because the turtle was associated with night, and so came to symbolize darkness and evil. [/quote']
Egypt: Animals and the Gods of Ancient Egypt
so in egypt, the turtle's barque was worse than his bike.
so it goes. . . . . . . . .
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#15
Posted 20 February 2010 - 12:25 PM
line said:
The link is broken, but I'm sure you mean: Nefertiti - The Most Beautiful King of Egypt? | Heritage Key. The page is not saying that the image is the (or any) shawabti.
line said:
Be that as it may (or may not!) be, it's beside the point of when Nefertiti died. It is not the shawabti in question.
line said:
Notice that the text of the inscription has brackets in it [ ] Everything in the brackets is assumed and unknown because the statue is fragmentary. The Louvre fragment has "The Heiress, high and mighty in the palace, one trusted" and the Brooklyn fragment has "his Lifetime, the Chief Wife of the King (Neferneferuaten-Nefertiti), Living for Ever and Ever." The rest of the inscription between the belly and the feet is missing. This is not significant to the point being made which is that Nefertiti most likely died (as this Shawabti presumably shows) with the title "King's wife". It is, as I see it, a fair (but by no means conclusive) argument against what you have put forward in this thread... that she died having been a Pharaoh.
The two counter arguments that I think you could make would be 1) that's not a Shawabti or 2) even if it is, it was made as part of Akhenaten's funeral before she died.
The place where I found the image is here: Queen Nefertiti toward the bottom of the page.
~modest

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