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Turtle, on 13 September 2011 - 01:18 PM, said:

so far your confidence in "our" response has not been rewarded. how long have people been reading the guts of sheep to get at truth? what is your most confident conclusion as to who invented the puzzle, when, where, and to what purpose?

is it not strange that sheep's guts could hail souls out of men's bodies? ~ william shakespeare

How can you compare sheep's guts (hand is quicker than the eye) with a written puzzle!!

In answer to your question about my most confident conclusion...what are the odds that people living without the aid of computers could produce such a puzzle? Fact is the Bible is a compilation of many books...ironic how those books (written in different centuries) repeat each other in such an unusual fashion (including the N.T. and Books of Enoch, Eden, Odes of Solomon, and more)!!

[Turtle]

dduckwessel, on 13 September 2011 - 06:40 PM, said:

How can you compare sheep's guts (hand is quicker than the eye) with a written puzzle!!

In answer to your question about my most confident conclusion...what are the odds that people living without the aid of computers could produce such a puzzle? Fact is the Bible is a compilation of many books...ironic how those books (written in different centuries) repeat each other in such an unusual fashion (including the N.T. and Books of Enoch, Eden, Odes of Solomon, and more)!!

i can make the comparison quite handily, as you see i just did. sheep guts is as sheep guts does. you did not answer my question(s). who, when, where, and to what purpose?

edit: add sheep guts

international cognition and culture institute

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The pattern of blood vessels on the entrails represents genealogical relationships and blemishes show which of these relationships (with the living or with the dead) need mending

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lawcat, on 13 September 2011 - 05:58 PM, said:

This is clearly not a scientific thread in any ordinary sense, it is basically a study of the biblical message no different than what thousands of preachers do every day. OP is simply preaching on the meaning of the bible and I feel like I am sitting in his church, and that is OK with me, it's posted in the proper rubric. I do not know if it's OK with the mods though.

On the contrary it's very different from what preachers are doing every day because it's not an exegetical debate as the puzzle-paradigm eliminates the need for self-interpretation.

The puzzle-paradigm further reveals a 'single and singular' author so we should give him a name. I'm thinking Bob might be a good place to start (got the idea from a kids movie, they named their new planet that)! It was Christians that named it the Bible, but other religions call it (or portions thereof) something else. It might help people here on Hypography to see the writings as something other than a religious book!

I keep responding because I've not been told to be quiet, as yet, but I'm walking on eggshells.

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Turtle, on 13 September 2011 - 06:58 PM, said:

i can make the comparison quite handily, as you see i just did. sheep guts is as sheep guts does. you did not answer my question(s). who, when, where, and to what purpose?

I was being evasive, wasn't I?

The writings themselves say they were inspired by an otherworldy and superior, being. As I have reconstructed the complicated messages (different books written in very different eras), I do not see how individuals without the aid of computers (and even basic study helps) could have written them and maintained the consistency over such long periods of time!

oops forgot, when? (when they were written), where? (different locations), what purpose? (to confound people that think they know everything)...just kidding. It appears to me as if the true messages have been hidden - for what purpose I do not as yet understand.

[lawcat]

I'd rather read your preaching than argue with you that you are fraudulently representing science, and my humble advice is that you should not peddle this as science because only then you are walking a fine line. Just continue expounding on your thoughts.

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lawcat, on 13 September 2011 - 07:45 PM, said:

I'd rather read your preaching than argue with you that you are fraudulently representing science, and my humble advice is that you should not peddle this as science because only then you are walking a fine line. Just continue expounding on your thoughts.

will do

[Turtle]

dduckwessel, on 13 September 2011 - 07:32 PM, said:

I was being evasive, wasn't I?

The writings themselves say they were inspired by an otherworldy and superior, being. ...

that's why what you are doing here does not meet the standard of this board. we do have appropriate threads here that approach the who's, where's, when's and why-for's of who wrote the bible (and other apocrapha). it is not as you say, against our rules to discuss the bible per se. the ops's and authoritive links given in these threads set the tone for the kind of discourse we intended in setting up the theology section.

surely if you are as clever & adept at puzzles as you contend, then you can understand our very simple straight-forward admonitions to you that your topic as presented is not appropriate to our board.

Who [Re-]Wrote the Bible?

Hermeneutics - Who [Re-]Wrote the Old Testament?

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Turtle, on 13 September 2011 - 08:13 PM, said:

that's why what you are doing here does not meet the standard of this board. we do have appropriate threads here that approach the who's, where's, when's and why-for's of who wrote the bible (and other apocrapha). it is not as you say, against our rules to discuss the bible per se. the ops's and authoritive links given in these threads set the tone for the kind of discourse we intended in setting up the theology section.

surely if you are as clever & adept at puzzles as you contend, then you can understand our very simple straight-forward admonitions to you that your topic as presented is not appropriate to our board.

duly noted:

http://www.mtio.com/...es/bissar35.htm

[dduckwessel]

Did my offering please you oh great B'wana and atone for my sheep-ish-ness?

[Turtle]

dduckwessel, on 14 September 2011 - 08:08 AM, said:

Did my offering please you oh great B'wana and atone for my sheep-ish-ness?

in a word, no. you traded one sheep-gut reader for another. what's more, you simply threw up a link with no discussion relating it's content to the op.

your "authority" does not even know how to write and/or edit a complete sentence in modern english. (boldenation mine)
How We Got the Bible; Chapter 13
from Reading The Bible With Understanding
by Dr. Lane Burgland

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...The debate over who wrote the books of the Old Testament and when they were written has raged for over two centuries. While tradition plays a role in answering these questions. Scripture itself makes certain claims about authorship and date. ...

then there is this bit.

dr boogerland said:

...The writing of the Old Testament took place over about one thousand years. We cannot determine how many authors were involved. ...

if you took the time to read those threads and contained links on bible authorship that i gave you would know that we can determine a number of authors, and more to the point more than 1 author, through the bona fide scientific methods of technical analysis. your method(s) and your reference's methods are not technical analysis by any stretch of the doubt.

i am ashamed to be an old man when such as you come here and carry on about how you have spent 40 years on some vice and expect that others should think your waste of time is worthy of some accreditation simply for its length. just how is it you can be so bright and not understand "no"?

[Qfwfq]

Duck,

you are definitely not conducting this discussion in an appropriate manner. In the past I have already dropped you little hints about how to avoid annoying people. You tend to dodge criticism and you are in the habit of invoking your supposedly superior competence in the topic to justify your statements. Your style of discussion is just not suitable.

To avoid further annoyance, thread closed. Mind not to get yourself banned someday.