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#16 User is offline   sigurdV 

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 02:16 PM

Is the startingpoint of your idea that the picture of a universe expanding into something can be replaced with a picture of the universe doing the expansion within itself?

I mean: What is your theory expressed with a minimum of maths and physics?
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Posted 03 September 2011 - 01:25 AM

View PostsigurdV, on 02 September 2011 - 02:16 PM, said:

Is the startingpoint of your idea that the picture of a universe expanding into something can be replaced with a picture of the universe doing the expansion within itself?

I mean: What is your theory expressed with a minimum of maths and physics?


I am a computer programmer / micro processor designer not a physist, so I can't go too deep myself.

Switching between thinking in normal accepted cosmology terms, and this model can be a real mind bender, if you do it a few times a day. To test observations or convert distances/ times from one to the other.

When I have my head in Condensing Universe mode, I consider the BBT view of things to be an optical illusion.
It only looks like space is expanding because we are getting smaller.
I have a little plastic man on my desk holding a tiny metre ruler.
I sometimes pretend he is measuring the velocity of the cat and getting a different number on his ruler to mine.

The key thing is in this model, is there are two types of units of distance.
Distances measured using the speed of light, and a fixed time reference.
Speed of light is always 1.0 at the large scale, so the universe is not expanding if you measure in light-years.

However, physical units of measurement based on matter shrink with us.
The universe is expanding if you measure it in metres or miles.

The parsec gets a bit dodgy to use in the condensing universe model as it is a bit of both.
Any thoughts on Condensing Universe in Alternative theories would be appreciated.

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Physics is the search for the best model not the truth, as only mythical beings know that.
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Posted 03 September 2011 - 08:17 AM

Your point then: The universe is not expanding measuring in lightyears, but expanding if measuring in miles. Right?
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Posted 03 September 2011 - 08:31 AM

View PostsigurdV, on 03 September 2011 - 08:17 AM, said:

Your point then: The universe is not expanding measuring in lightyears, but expanding if measuring in miles. Right?


Yes.
The mile is getting 6% shorter every billion years.

Just don't use miles for measuring distances in space.
Any thoughts on Condensing Universe in Alternative theories would be appreciated.

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