[Turtle]

___I just re-read this thread in order that I don't re-pete myself, so now on to another Urantia topic found elsewhere. It is reincarnation. The Urantia addresses reincarnation directly in regard to other religions such a Hindu, & discounts/denies those views; in short, it says you get one shot at living as a human. However, hidden amongst the 3,000 pages, the authors say in one sentence that "some" people reincarnate "once" & in another well buried senetence the authors further allow that "some" people reincarnate three times. These brief allowed contradictions have qualifying material before & after them that say how "rare" these reincarnations are & imply it certainly isn't going to apply to "you" the reader.

[HydrogenBond]

I think everyone is missing the point. If the author believes it was a revelation, than the text at the very least was a creative inspiration that stemmed from within. He found a way to make use of some of his higher human potential to teach/synthesize things that he did not necessarily learn from outside. Christ said he would leave behind a comfortor, the spirit of truth; one has no need for anyone to teach you as the spirit will teach one all things. Scientist are often biased to think that the only reality is what their eyes see, and do not always realize that things also appear from within. It was pprobably difficult to translate these fast/dense integrated memory signals, which is why the writing is hard to read. All the contemporary theories started within the imagination of some scientist and was only later proven out with math, data and logic.

[Turtle]

HydrogenBond said:

I think everyone is missing the point. If the author believes it was a revelation, than the text at the very least was a creative inspiration that stemmed from within.

___Which "one" of every"one" do you mean? is missing the point?
___As I stated early on, I assert this is the work of a committe of authors, not a single author. Moreover, I assert(ed) these authors do not think what they are writing is divinely inspired; they mean to write something so as to convince the reader it is divinely inspired. That is why I say it is a hoax.
___Just curious Hydro; have you read it?

[SakmonKi]

Jay-qu said:

if Jesus came along now do you think most people would think he is a fraud? of course there are going to be the odd beleiver in a group but Im talking major majority of the world so that he could make same impact

Jesus wasn't believed by the majority in HIS time. It wasn't even until he was on trial that he himself declared to the politicians that he was the Messiah. He waited until he was at the absolute bottom, when he was abandoned by his followers and facing certain execution. Basically he didn't declare himself to society's leaders until the threat of establishing a religion had passed.

"He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.' " – Luke 16:31

[Turtle]

SakmonKi said:

Jesus wasn't believed by the majority in HIS time. It wasn't even until he was on trial that he himself declared to the politicians that he was the Messiah. He waited until he was at the absolute bottom, when he was abandoned by his followers and facing certain execution. Basically he didn't declare himself to society's leaders until the threat of establishing a religion had passed.

"He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.' " – Luke 16:31

___As this was your first affronting post(moreover your first post at all at Hypography), I won't broach from it either. The quote you chiseled in with was a question directed to me. This thread is on the topic of Urantia Book, & either stay on topic or withhold your comments. Your etiquette is in violation of the forum Rules.

[AtlantaWonder]

How do we not know that this is not 'the great book' that answers all of life's questions?
___As for plate techtonics (spelling ) maybe god himself doesit and it has nothing to do with gravity and whatnot. Maybe god just REALLY doesnt like California
___Have not reading it myself, i cannot make such great claims, but, as from what i have read, this book seems pretty darn crazy, hey wait, just as crazy as EVERY OTHER BOOK that claims to be 'the book' cmon now as an outsider read the koran and the bible. Now as an outsider critically judge it.
Its crazy. . That is exactley what you will read as an outsider. The only think keeping you from not reading it again is the fact that it might just bring some happiness to your life, and the fact that you will not be suffering in eternal damnation if you dont follow it's word :

[Turtle]

AtlantaWonder said:

How do we not know that this is not 'the great book' that answers all of life's questions?
___As for plate techtonics (spelling ) maybe god himself doesit and it has nothing to do with gravity and whatnot. Maybe god just REALLY doesnt like California
___Have not reading it myself, i cannot make such great claims, but, as from what i have read, this book seems pretty darn crazy, hey wait, just as crazy as EVERY OTHER BOOK that claims to be 'the book' cmon now as an outsider read the koran and the bible. Now as an outsider critically judge it.
Its crazy. . That is exactley what you will read as an outsider. The only think keeping you from not reading it again is the fact that it might just bring some happiness to your life, and the fact that you will not be suffering in eternal damnation if you dont follow it's word :

___Thanks for staying on topic. Since "we" means "every-one" & that is a collection of "ones", then only "each-one" who reads it is properly posed to "know" what it says.
___As I have read it, in fact studied it, I am one who knows what it says. This thread is my exposition on that study in relation to everything else I know. In order for other "ones" to understand my analysis, it is a prerequisite to read/study Urantia. As you point out, this same burden is extant for the cogent analysis of every other book; moreover, each book leaves unanswered questions whose exposition lay in yet other books.
___After a few scores of years following this algorithm, the commanality of all books & their themes & expressions, the base/foundational "knowing" becomes transparent.

[Turtle]

___Another pervasive theme in the Urantia is the threatening language. For every statement of god's love, grace, charity, etc. there is an accompanying passage of threatening language outlining the "or else" if one does not believe/comply with the edicts.
___Besides raising funds to translate & publish the Urantia in other languages, the foundation is working to place a copy in every prison. What will they think of next?!

[Ice]

I´ve read the entire book and it is amacing. But still, in the URANTIA book they say the Egiptians saild the Atlantic ocean all the way up north to the Faroe Islands- therefore the name of the islands. Thats incorrect! The Feroe Islands lay midway betveen England and Iceland,- where I live. The name of the islands is Faereyjar,- mening Sheep Islands in Faeroe and Icelandic. This is a mispronounsment in English,- has nothing to do with Faro,- only sheep.

[arkain101]

The Urantia book was written by a number of people through communication to celestial beings. These beings are not human, nor of this dimension. They are titled such as, watchers, thought adjusters, midwayers, teachers, and spirits.
The phenominom of communicating to these beings has been forever here. The thought adjusters / guardians are ones assigned to you for your whole life, they have a job to do for you as the archer and you are the arrow, and their job is to design you into a true shooting arrow so you can be released and glide, which is by no means a difficult job for them as it happens in a matter of no time, as they co-exist in the dimension of all time. As if All things are on a video tape, we are stuck as the lense in time of the tape and this other realm is the place where you can look at the tape as one big loop.
There is a code that exists in this mind boggling large realm that all beings follow and can not break.. (and this is what I read).

This ability to communicate with these beings is becoming more widely practiced, known, and understood. Another such archive is being developed through the same technique the authors of the Urantia book used to communicate. This later archive is being built up from people all around the world and as skeptical as I am, these transcripts seem to have some kind of higher mind behind the words.
www.tmarchives.com
You can go there and search through the archives. On almost any topic you want. There is physics, and science realted things. These Celestial Teachers by of their code cant just lay out details for us and give us answers to everything we want. For example, when the atom bomb was discovered after Eienstien had been tipped on the concept of his relativity. Human kind risked the chance of their existance, and still today, we are learned on nuclear technology and the world is still armed to this day at any point capable to destruct the world over a few times. They say, we will soon learn to tap into the zero point field which is a real thing, and when we do we should take the same precautoins we wish we could of applied to the nuclear bomb before it was constructed.

-Nothing is alone, even a single atom has numerous neighbours all operating in the nature of teamwork-

So however this is true or not, we are all capable of contacting our own personal thought adjusters or teachers as there is hundreds of thousands of beings to contact. Through practicing stillness and directly communicating out loud you are suppsed to learn to contact another being. however, It might be difficult to decide whether you are having conversations with yourself or someone else.. but they say once you have learned you will be capable to know the difference.

So the Urantia book may have some false clicks in it, but the beings who shared with them this massive database of information from the Akashic Records know well that they are not alloud to present specific types of information to us incarnated living beings..

I stand by all of this to some degree but I am new to it of course. I do know through spiritual growth, that I have come to a knowing to understand that the universe is not just a bunch of atoms and energy, which organize themselves in such a way to randomly create life.. There is more to this than meets the eye, more to it than can been detected through site.

Sometimes I ask the question, where did the ability of deciphering colors come from.. and all the ideas we get...
I honestly dont think atoms grew up to learn how to make an atom bomb.

But this does not make one a spritual thumper... Its best to balance analytical scienctifics equally along with spiritual matters... and then you can controll the open mind, or reason the open mind.

[Turtle]

Ice said:

I´ve read the entire book and it is amacing. But still, in the URANTIA book they say the Egiptians saild the Atlantic ocean all the way up north to the Faroe Islands- therefore the name of the islands. Thats incorrect! The Feroe Islands lay midway betveen England and Iceland,- where I live. The name of the islands is Faereyjar,- mening Sheep Islands in Faeroe and Icelandic. This is a mispronounsment in English,- has nothing to do with Faro,- only sheep.

___Sweet Ice! A linguistic chink in their declarative armour. (or did the pharohs have a sheep thang goin';) )

My baaaaaddd.

[Dweezle]

I read this and it is a hoot! Orange and green people and flying angel aliens that live on worlds out in space. They give all the details. I wonder how long it took to write it?

[arkain101]

It sounds like hoohaa.. but I can personally say that I have seen some events that are logically acurate, much related to the possibilies in this book.

[Saitia]

Dweezle said:

I wonder how long it took to write it?

Not an easy question to answer. According to historical accounts the process that resulted in the Papers began in 1906, and culminated in the appearance of most of the papers by 1925. Some of the papers include a published inditement date of 1934 and 1936.

More puzzling, however, was the initial appearance of 500 hand-written pages which were found in the room of the "sleeping subject" one morning in December of 1924, by his wife. The pages contained the answers to 181 questions that had been assembled in response to a "personality" that spoke "through" the sleeping subject, issuing a challenge to the physician who had been monitoring the sessions of this fellow and conversing with various "voices" that claimed to be personal beings from other worlds.
The challenge was something to the effect that, if you knew what you were in contact with you would not ask such trivial questions, you would ask questions that would "elicit answers of supreme importance to the human race."

Dr. William Sadler concluded that the sleeping subject had not produced the material, as it was not his handwriting, his hand tested negative for muscular fatigue, his wife said she doubted he could have left their bed without waking her, and the fellow himself said he didn't write anything. (He was likewise oblivious to the voices that regularly spoke through his vocal cords.)

All of the papers eventually appeared, in handwritten form in pencil, and a typed copy made. The handwritten material was regularly placed in a safe, but the material disappeared as soon as the typed copy was completed. The papers were published in 1955.

—Saitia

[Turtle]

Saitia said:

Not an easy question to answer. According to historical accounts the process that resulted in the Papers began in 1906, and culminated in the appearance of most of the papers by 1925. Some of the papers include a published inditement date of 1934 and 1936.


—Saitia

Now that right there Sir (Mam?) is more information on the subject than I have seen in over 20 years! The book itself says 1934, but when I wrote the Urantia Foundation to enquire into the details of the writings' appearence they gave no further information. (This did put me on their mailing list & for years I received the most fascinating array of documents.)

So if you please Saitia (Aitias:lol: ) what "historical accounts" do you refer to? Thanks for helping to get to the bottom of this.