[Ganoderma]

i have recently purchased a book about ayauscha (by Ralph Metzer and others) published 2005 i think.

there seems to be some good study going on now.

in that book they mention another book by a fellow discussing the relationship between DMT and DNA. strong visions and ancient art depicting a double helix, often serpentine, that resembles that of DNA....i have yet to get that book, but it sounds fascinating.

on DMT and death, i have yet to read anything that confirms it, so far.

but in the trip, and reading about ancient cultures talking about the beginning of man and the "gods" with visions that parallel that of science, is something that blows my mind.

i find, sometimes more than others, that no matter how far out something seems...this wacky stuff seems to puzzle itself together with the "normal" stuff, to give a small hint that there is a really big picture, that we do not comprehend, and the thought of any of it all being interconnected, makes my head blow a fuse.

[Moontanman]

Didn't some doctor or researcher have him self injected with a huge dose of DMT or LSD as he was slipping into death? I don't remember who it was but it was related to the idea of the release of DMT like chemicals at death.

[Hyperborean]

I like the idea of eternity encompassed in the moments of death; the eternal contained within a short finite time, and have often thought death and the afterlife might be something like this myself.

What about extending this concept of an afterlife landscape? It might "eventually" be a little claustrophobic to exist only within your own mind and memories after death. Might the platonic, spiritual love relationships you experience during life (if your are lucky to do so) forge a long-lasting telepathic bridge between minds, thus giving you the ability to roam and enjoy other minds after death. After all, the phrase "love is eternal" suggests this.

Again this ties up with religious instruction to love one another. If you somehow entangle two minds through love, in this way, you expand your afterlife possibilities. Whereas if you went around with no love for anyone or anything, your afterlife landscape might be more limited.

[Ganoderma]

Hyperborean said:

I like the idea of eternity encompassed in the moments of death; the eternal contained within a short finite time, and have often thought death and the afterlife might be something like this myself.

there are entire cultures of people who believe they see this, and gain the knowledge of all of this, without dieing. yage seems to be a real interesting thing.

the odd part is that many of these savage indians drug crazed beliefs tend to be rather accurate and go hand in hand with some scientific ideas/theories/"facts".

there seems to be something hidden in these things, and as much as i tend to not believe in anything of the spiritual realms, there seems to be some kind of mysterious, secret logic to it all.

[ismaeldp]

so practically to live forever you only need ur brain to work with something doing the job that the heart will be doing which is moving oxygen, waste etc. because it has all your memory

[Ganoderma]

Hello. I am not sure I understand what you mean.

I have done a fair bit of studying local plants and DMT, and personally dont find myself altered by it or more enlightened, but the experience one has on it is certainly profound and intense enough that makes em think a lot of people that tend to have a spiritual "vibe" would take into it and learn a great deal about how they want to live life etc.

Its a fascinating substance. Not one for recreation i can see.