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#76 User is offline   CraigD 

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Posted 03 December 2006 - 12:23 AM

arkain101 said:

The contraction is in the ratio:
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Propose we took this equation and wrote:

(1+V^2/C^2)= (1-V^2/C^2)

is this mathamatically correct?
\left(1+\frac{V^2}{c^2}\right) = \left(1-\frac{V^2}{c^2}\right)

does not follow from

ratio = \sqrt{1-\frac{V^2}{c^2}}

\left(1+\frac{V^2}{c^2}\right) = \left(1-\frac{V^2}{c^2}\right) has no real non-zero solutions for V.

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I propose things are square rooted and squared because they deal with one frames interests.
I don’t follow your reasoning.

\frac1{\sqrt{1-\frac{V^2}{c^2}}}, the Lorentz factor, is usually considered to be due to the equivalence principle of Special Relativity, and the Pythagorean theorem (A special case of which can be stated: for a right triangle with sides length A and B and hypotenuse length 1, A=\sqrt{1-B^2} ), a consequence of locally Euclidean geometry.
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Posted 03 December 2006 - 09:13 AM

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\left(1+\frac{V^2}{c^2}\right) = \left(1-\frac{V^2}{c^2}\right) has no real non-zero solutions for V

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I propose things are square rooted and squared because they deal with one frames interests.


I don’t follow your reasoning.


For example. You mentioned it does not solve for V.

Solving for a value of one frames interest is gernally what all physics is.
-Kintetic Energy, Potential Energy, E=MC^2, Velocity, etc.

These equations have interest in one frames interest. They calculate the value of one frame, from the interaction of two frames.

Principle, no ONE event can occur without a counterpart frame. That is velocity, energy, mass, gravity. All forces for example, they are products that occur from a minimum of two frames.

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I propose things are square rooted and squared because they deal with one frames interests


So for example KE.
KE=1/2(M*V^2)
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KE=(M*V) (M*V) / (M + M)

This solves for KE of one frame. But one frame never has KE unless you apply a secondary frame. This is relativity.

So we have what is collaboration equation. Not a solving equation but a predicting equation:
The delta change in one frame is equal and opposte to the other frame.
-Delta (frame1) = +Delta(frame2)
The Change value is determined by formula of KE of frame of interest.

(Frame of interest, it has motion. What is lossed in this side is equall but oppositely gained in the other:
(frame 1) (-)KE=1/2(M*V^2) = (+)'KE=1/2('M*'V^2) (frame2)

This equation does not solve for one frame. It simply describes what happens. I am not very good at expressing it in math, but I am trying to show that if one frame of mass hits strait on to another frame of mass.
The operation that occurs will be energy lossed on one frame will be taken by the other frame. The velocities are determinable by other equations.

So if we unite those two sides we get a whole, product event. That whole product event is Force. Force did not exist untill the frames interacted.

Thus everything in the universe is predicted to behave this way in respect to this theory.

If you knew nothing of science and you wondered; What is energy? The equation would say, it is the equal yet opposite counterpart of some thing.
Thus you would be inclined to discover what that some thing is. What is opposite to something that measures to have No mass. Something with mass, thus matter/mass.
But how much energy? well you look at mass at rest and energy at C. Mass only moves in one dimension, and a minimum movement is to lose momentum in equal opposite directions. Using also other equations, one would be confident to say E=MC^2, under the understanding all 'things' have a relationship in the form of.
-Delta (frame1) = +Delta(frame2)
and all relationships generate and event as a whole. We refer to these events as change, motion, or force.


so when I tried to use this:
\left(1+\frac{V^2}{c^2}\right) = \left(1-\frac{V^2}{c^2}\right)
it is attempting to say
Observer rest: There is a positive(expansion) ratio change in matter dimension parrallel to motion = Observer acceleration: there is a negetive (contraction) ratio change in space dimension parrallel to motion

Equal change of opposites. matter = space

It attempts to say, if you measure change in one frame, you can directly predict the change in the other frame and what kind of change that will be relative to each other. The product of these two changes or frames is an event of motion and force.

Thus the equation to solve for force, may possibly never be an equation solving force for one side.

However, it is predicted, that force is explained to be an equation that expresses a change ratio of +1 : 1- for two frames. That change ratio as a whole of each frame developes conecption of force and motion and mass.
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Posted 03 December 2006 - 12:40 PM

Prediction of stimulating free energy

This theory of relativity predicts a method to gather energy out of mass in a cold form.

By cooling a specific gas the relativistic space contraction and matter expansions amongst atoms reduce so much that the effect of weak nuclear force, or chemical bonds is weakened, and eventually will reach null if the atoms can be put into zero acceleration form.

Once the atoms are put into posistion rest from cooling this gas enough it is predicted it will become a condensed material of no weak nuclear force, and act as a frictionless fluid, aswell as a possible loss of its gravitational attraction to other mass, due also to losing dimension exchange of equal opposites.

By enducing this material of atoms at rest with a magnetic field, the atoms velocity will not be affected by the field due to their stage in zero acceleration. However, this will cause the internal workings of the atom, the protons/nuetrons/quarks/electrons to experience relativistic effects of their space-time. At this time I am unsure to say whether they would experience spacial expansion or contraction. However as experiments have shown this can cause a bose-einstein condensate material to 'shrink'.

What this should do is perform the same sort of act as a nuclear fission. In fission the theory predicts that space is contracted in the atoms view causing the atomic material to expand in volume and become unstable and split as it were into energy.

The theory predicts that with proper apparatus a bose-einstein condensate material could be manipulated into assuming super spacial expansion, like blowing up the space between those atoms creating a massive potential energy. Relative to observing the material it would shrink, and with proper reduction of the magnetic field, that material should be capable to transform their mass into pure energy. As energy in this theory is desribed to be space.

So the magnetic field causes the atoms to act as if they have been placed in a larger C-meter (spacial volume) and in doing so all quantum frames act as if time has sped up, or as if they have lost tempeature. When the magnetic field allows the space to contract their large C-meter gives all outside observes energy. That is, the events born in the super shrunk atoms are from a very large C-meter relative to themselves and as the traverse from there to outside frames of much smaller C-meter the energy is magnified, frequency increases, and time is observed to run faster, as the material is allowed to re-expand. The magnetic field requires energy, but, the amount of energy reduced from the manipulated atoms should be equivalent to E=MC^2. Thus cold fusion, or free energy of sorts is produced. It should be possible to stabalize the atoms as to allow them not to lose all velocity relative to themselves. In the correct setup, a dynamic magnetic field should be possible to cause a pumping action out of the atoms, as to pump energy right out of space.

In this theory energy is space, and mass is relativistic space changes. Mass is considered force, or that is when you measure it, it always becomes a force. A force is considered relativistic effects amongst a minimum of two atomic frames, it is observed as motion or velocity. Thus accelerating mass, creates force which directly affects its mass.


Test data showing this effect:

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Further experimentation by the JILA team in 2000 uncovered a hitherto unknown property of Bose–Einstein condensate. Cornell, Wieman, and their coworkers originally used rubidium-87, an isotope whose atoms naturally repel each other making a more stable condensate. The JILA team instrumentation now had better control over the condensate so experimentation was made on naturally attracting atoms of another rubidium isotope, rubidium-85 (having negative atom-atom scattering length). Through a process called Feshbach resonance involving a sweep of the magnetic field causing spin flip collisions, the JILA researchers lowered the characteristic, discrete energies at which the rubidium atoms bond into molecules making their Rb-85 atoms repulsive and creating a stable condensate. The reversible flip from attraction to repulsion stems from quantum interference among condensate atoms which behave as waves.

When the scientists raised the magnetic field strength still further, the condensate suddenly reverted back to attraction, imploded and shrank beyond detection, and then exploded, blowing off about two-thirds of its 10,000 or so atoms. About half of the atoms in the condensate seemed to have disappeared from the experiment altogether, not being seen either in the cold remnant or the expanding gas cloud. Carl Wieman explained that under current atomic theory this characteristic of Bose–Einstein condensate could not be explained because the energy state of an atom near absolute zero should not be enough to cause an implosion

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Posted 03 December 2006 - 01:26 PM

Umm, your using the classical Kinetic energy equation.

For the purposes of this theorem, it would seem important to address the one which matches. That is:
K = mc^2 - \gamma mc^2
which replaces:
K = \frac{1}{2}m\nu^2

in full it can be expressed as:
K = mc^2 - \frac{mc^2}{\sqrt{1-\frac{\nu^2}{c^2}}}

Also I don't think you addressed CraigD's concerns. His mathematical ability is very good, so when it comes to talking equations, he is very good.
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Posted 03 December 2006 - 06:09 PM

Postulates of theory


a)No action can occur without a minimum of two frames of reference. We can call these frames; A and B. (if you include an observer C who is observing frame A and B, this is 3 frames)

:thumbs_doAll frames of refernce are places of observation. Observation with zero dimension as their present moment (now moment). This is, they are constrained to a present moment. A present moment of observation has no space. To assume a dimension is presuming future and distance, leaving the present of a frame.

c)All forces are products of two or more frames (a minimum of two frames interacting), but not an entity in of itself or not its own source. (frames being the same types previously mentioned). The source of the a force and all forces is a frame such as an atom experiencing spacial contraction in the direction of the counterpart reference frame. From afar this is observed as a force, when two frames observe space contract between them. For example; magnets. They may have the atomic accelerations in alignment. This rapid occilaton of observing space contract and expand causes a macroscopic observation of a distorted field (lines of force). Two south poles experience that of spacial expansion between them thus they will never naturally remain together, and the same for two north poles. Opposite poles however, observe space to contract between them, thus from afar they appear to have a 'force' driving them together.

d)All particles of material or, of mass, are simply frames of observation with titles (titles ie; electron, quark). (no fundamental particle) that observe relativistic effects within their present moment observation. These relativistic effects cause them to have posistion adjustment (force and movement) from spacial contractions, expansions that occur in their frames. Also, matter expansions and contractions that also occur in their frames as observations of other frames.

e)All actions between two frames observing eachother are equal and opposite events relative to each observer (All measureable events have an equal and opposite counterpart). This is, to consider a minimum of two frames; Frame A observering frame B, frame B observing frame A.
Example;
-If frame A experiences time to speed up around it, frame B will see frame A's time slow down in equal ratio.


f)As in Special relativity - The laws of physics are the same in all inertial frames of reference. In other words, there are no privileged inertial frames of reference.

g)Invariance of c - The speed of light in a vacuum is a universal constant © which is independent of the motion of the light source.


___This thread is large and disorganized so I thought I would layout the principles or postulates of this theory, to help get things on track. In short time I will be opening a new thread distinctly about this theory of relativity. This should give readers a chance to understand and follow along.
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Posted 04 December 2006 - 01:07 PM

Theory refering to Dark Energy, and the measurement of the universe expanding.

reply to article: Hubble finds evidence of dark energy



This theory of relativity predicts that dark energy is a concept that is rightly argued by the observation of space expanding.
The equal and opposite counterpart of space expanding is matter or, observable matter contracting, which is also rightly arguable.

Example. If one observes by means of light, that the universe and it's material bodies are increasing distance between eachother, they may conclude space is expanding. Also, we will express why it appears to accelerate.

Imagine for a moment a very very large trampoline that is flat (the trampoline is going to be consideredmassless to avoid itself from sagging). It is for example, A square kilometer in size.

Then it begins to rain millions of tiny balls of mercury (diameter 1cm). centimeter. These mercury balls are affected by earths gravity, and the trampoline is not.

The balls imediatly settle into a indentation into the trampoline and assume rest time point (t1). So we have a massive number of round balls of mercury with a diameter of a centimeter. The space between each ball bearing is 10cm. (these balls of mercury are sagging deep into the stretchy tramp, but we must assume the tramp never loses its over all flatness).

An observer from one of the mercury balls would look and conclud that the universe was very clustered, and very little space.

As time passes one ball joins an indentaion of another ball. At moment of (t2), on average every ball bearing is united with a partner forming a volume(volume2) and an observer on the new ball concludes space between each ball has increased (size X). While the space doubles? the volume of each ball unites into a size of which is 25% larger.
radius 5 = vol 524
Vol 524 x 2 = 1048
volume 1048 = radius 6.3
see sphere volume: Spheres Calculator

Time 3. On average every ball of volume 2 has united with another volume 2 into the size of volume 3 (which is 4 balls of diameter 1cm into 1 ball) and space has again been observed to increase.

The ratio here is greater space expansion for there is of mercury volume expansion. This results in an acceleration of space expansion.

Eventually we have large ball shaped objects of mercury seperated by massive distances. Each of these puddles will eventually merge together at times. However, when they do merge, they will carry such mass combined with velocity that they will merge and explode into several puddles of various volume. As galaxies do.

The theory here directly says that obsevations of the incredibly distance past will create a point of time where the universe was condensing creating an expansion of space, at a ratio larger in expansion of space than there is of volume increasement of matter.
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Posted 04 December 2006 - 02:57 PM

Space versus Volume


Showing a comparison between changes in space and volume:


We start with a cube:
The cube has 10cm length * 10cm height * 10cm width

We place in one sphere with diameter 2.67cm and volume 10cm^3 inside the box. Then we add volumes of spheres together; as in water dropplets that merge as one.

The below is: box width (x axis) minus sphere diameter(d#).

(x)10cm - 2.67cm(d1) = 7.33cm total distance from walls x axis for volume 10cm^3

add another 2.67cm diameter sphere
10cm - 3.37cm = 6.63cm total distance from walls x axis for volume 20cm^3

add one more 2.67cm diameter spheres
10cm - 3.86 cm = 6.14cm total distance from walls x axis for volume 30cm^3

add one more 2.67cm diameter spheres
10cm - 4.24cm = 5.76cm total distance from walls x axis for volume 40cm^3

add one more 2.67cm diameter spheres
10cm - 4.57cm = 5.43cm total distance from walls x axis for volume 50cm^3

As we see the volume increases as expected but, the axis space does not increase the same way. They change by different ratio's.

The following is, the distance total to the walls, relative to the diameter of the sphere, as we added 10cm^3 spheres.

7.33cm to 6.63cm to 6.14cm to 5.76cm to 5.43
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7.33cm - 0.7 = 6.63cm - 0.49 = 6.14cm - 0.38 = 5.76 - 0.33 = 5.43
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0.7 , 0.49, 0.38, 0.33
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0.7/0.49=0.7
0.38 / 0.49 =0.77
0.38 / 0.33 = 0.86

We see the distance of, in this case axis "x, changes by a different ratio than volume. This difference is that distances increase faster than does volume.

There are ratios here that can be calculated but it is something I would need help to calculate.

Volume increases at a constant ratio. That is, if you add 1cm^3 to a given volume you gain 1cm^3 to the total.

Conclusion:

This concludes that space increases differently than volume. The result of this is that, space or distance between posistions (of 1D one axis), changes at a different ratio than does the volume of bodies.

This is supporting the fact space will be observed to acclerate in expansion as matter collects and form individual bodies.

*If this ratio is correctly calculated, it should predict an accurate value of expansion of the universe, in relation to the observed average volume of matter, for a given observed zone.


Note: postulates
*The distance between positions in of object in space is in the form of 1 dimension axis (this being velocity).

*However, things that act at rest relative to eachother, will observe any relativistic effects in the form of 3 spacial dimensions.

*Frames in motion relative to eachother, will observe 1d relativistic effects (one axis),
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Posted 07 December 2006 - 04:36 PM

An interesting bit of equations seen at: Particle in a Box

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\frac {1}{2}mv^2 = \frac {(m1 v) (m1' v)}{m1 + m1'} = \frac {p^2}{2m} = \frac {n^2 h^2}{8mL^2} = En

1. The energies are quantized and can be characterized by a quantum number n
2. The energy cannot be exactly zero.
3. The smaller the confinement, the larger the energy required.

If a particle is confined into a rectangular volume, the same kind of process can be applied to a three-dimensional "particle in a box", and the same kind of energy contribution is made from each dimension. The energies for a three-dimensional box are

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Interesting because ;
\frac {(m1 v) (m1' v)}{m1 + m1'} is a description of kinetic energy being a product of two frames, not just a moving frame. Two things of mass.
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Posted 20 December 2006 - 10:37 PM

possible confirmation of theory prediction.

prediction:

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*Strong and weak nuclear force is the effect of frames in a nucleus contracting space relative to eachother causing inevitable action of continuous contraction while in relativistic velocities.



experimental data:

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By studying the frictional forces acting on an atomic force microscope (AFM) tip drawn across a glass surface, researchers at the Georgia Institute of Technology have demonstrated for the first time that the formation of these capillaries is thermally activated. Their study suggests that it may be possible to reduce the adhesion between surfaces by reducing temperatures and putting nanoscale surfaces into motion before the water bridges have time to form.

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Posted 21 December 2006 - 05:19 AM

Rather than rummaging through however many thousands of words have been written, could you please write (in as few words as humanly possible) what the explicit differences between your theory and special relativity are? Perhaps if we shave off all the excess mumbojumbo then some math could be written to either support or refute your ideas. No examples, just pointform differences between SR and yours.

For instance, write

1a. SR says this.
1b. My theory, however, says this other thing.

2a. SR says this.
2b. My theory, however, says this other thing.

etc etc etc.
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Posted 21 December 2006 - 12:25 PM

Yes sure,

I know this thread is overwhelming, its contents is a work in progress, questions, predictions, etc.

I'm workin on showing how it differs from anything already considered today, which should result in new equations.

In the mean time go over these.
(note:my so called equations are attempts but most likely not functional final equations as I am learning math while I go along.)

http://hypography.co...462-post62.html

http://hypography.co...752-post66.html

http://hypography.co...972-post67.html

http://hypography.co...145-post68.html

http://hypography.co...315-post56.html
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