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I would say they must have shared and developed their ideals quite freely.

I dont see how you conclude reducing farmland caused the profit per acre to triple. Grimm never did take the farmland out of production, but was considering it at this one point in his (unknown) farming career. He was considering it due to commodity prices being so low there was no profit. His wheat profit is likely a temporary condition market wise and likely shifted greatly from last year for Grimm, due to an unusually cold and wet spring in MN.

One or two years of positive gains and profits does not negate the actual history of commodity profits for farmers and their downward spiral over the last 65 years.

Nobody with any experience in the world of commodities trading understands this margin of increase and will tell you the product is over-valued by speculators. This signals to me it is a temporary condition on that alone, without adding in the fact that more acreage (over 5 million acres) has been reintroduced into commodity growth between 06 and 07 in the USA alone.

I havent been following the weather in the Ukraine area this year to see if the drought there has been relieved yet (the start of the increased wheat run in the fall of 06 or 05 I cant remember which) nor have I followed the wheat conditions of australia (another supposed source of the wheat run by India).

I have spent no time on the falling dollar value making US commodity markets more attractive to other countries either. Another (hopefully) temporary condition.

BTW, a baker can produce around 70 loaves of bread per 50 lbs of wheat flour. This is pure wheat flour, and not a mixed grain breads.

Ah, Grimm and his 30 acres of wheat on steeply rolling land. 30 x 300 = $9000 dollars. But this isnt farm subsidy money so its irrelevant.

I did look up and 1 bushel of wheat produces around 50 lbs of flour. Should help you do the math on what the farmers take per loaf of bread is. Thats whole wheat, not wonder bread which is a mix of several grains.

no. The subsidies are price supports. Paying for land set asides is related to conservation of both land and waters.

Freeztar posted links in Post #15.

Now go back to your baker and ask how many ounces of wheat in a loaf of bread before you jump to conclusions on how rich farmers are getting off subsidies and where your actual cost increase is originating at.