TEguy

Like poles repel, opposite poles attract. ...or was it the other way around...

because everything is really light weight and only limited amount of input energy is allowed, drag will play a big part in slowing it down. Make sure you minimise that, otherwise it will stop real quick. As you already know ( I hope) what you are doing is converting potential energy to kinetic energy. Make sure you set it up so that the conversion rate is very slow, you want the weight to drop slowly and propel the car as it decends. Having one quick burst of energy will not be good in my opinion. The reason is the same - drag. High speed means lots of drag, keep the speed low and this will keep the drag low. Same applies to friction in the moving components. It is not a speed race, it is a distance race. That is my opinion anyway. Oh and you really need to do something about your spelling :) Good luck

Very interesting, I dont quite understand zero point energy but from what I read about it, it is very promising. I like your last sentence though, the implications are indeed complicated.

The Finsrud machine kinda stops every now and again and needs a bit of a nudge to get it going again. They were talking about it in a show I saw once.

I usually lose interest as soon as I read "it doesn't work now but it will definately work in vacuum". Anyway, it is probably impossible to create a perpetual motion machine as defined in the dictionary, but what if we could create a machine that appears to be perpetual? Not to trick people but to really use the machine to do useful work for us without requiring any energy source or fuel that we can see or know of. We should not assume that we have discovered or detected all possible energy sources that could be used for our benefit via a machine of some sort. There could be a lot more around us than we think. All we need to do is convert it to a usable form of energy for us and hope it will never run out.

all the balls would stick together, instead of go through the afford of moving relative to each other to produce electricity

The quick answer would be: count the number of weights on either side of the axis. The longer answer is: you need torque to make the wheel turn an torque is the product of force and distance from the axis. When people look at overbalanced wheels they usually only look at the distance from the axis but never pay attention what the total force (mass) on either side is.

...go on

So I'm assuming you are all working on some sort of mechanism that is self sustaining and uses magnets.

With what I will try to build could prove that a machine can be a lot less efficient than 100% but still run on its own without needing any fuel or any visible or detectable source of energy. I would not want to get into arguments whether it should be called perpetual because it is not 100% efficient and the dictionary says this and that. Call it whatever you want if it needs no fuel or batteries I'd buy it. If someone made a machine that uses energy purely from air and produced useful power I'd be happy with that. But what I want to have a go at is drawing energy from empty space as many scientists now predict is possible. I've been reading a lot about ZPE and I think there is a lot of uncharted territory there. Different scientist make different experiemnts for different reasons Yet when the different results are put together it all makes sense.

It won't work killasnail

ok I give up I guess where I come from rulers are generally big

C1ay I think nwaogu is the author of the website. I don't believe in crayon drawings either BUT Laws of conservation of this and that will one day be questioned, many laws have been completely wrong before. The law that stated that the Earth is flat for example. Sure you can't create energy, but it will appear that you create it if you were to suck it out of empty space to power your machine. This has nothng to do with nwaogu's gizmo but I refuse to simply accept something just because it has not been proven to be wrong yet. My physics lecturer told me once, you can be 100% sure that something exists when you see it, but you can never be 100% sure that something does not exist just because you can't see it.

Geronimo when I hold two magnets with their like poles towards each other, and place a steel ruler between them I am able to attach them both to the ruler, they do not repel each other, I think that's what mechanic was asking, if his invention is to have any similarity to internal combustion engine. Nice pictures Nwaogu, but have you built any of these? Sorry it might be explained in the website I didn't read everything.

Hello Everyone, I am a little surprised I haven’t been to this forum before. Wow I just read 199 messages. I have been doing it during my lunch breaks, took me three days. Anyway, I have been thinking about permanent magnet powered motors for a while. I think people get a bit carried away with what is perpetual and what is not. I think that strictly speaking you can't have a true perpetual motion device because of friction and heat losses, BUT if we could come up with a device that uses cheap and clean sources of energy that are (as far as we are concerned) unlimited, then we are doing allright. I have two questions at this stage: 1. Uncle Martin where are you up to with your design? and 2. Captain 90 Where are you up to with your design? I think the people in this forum put together have more potential than any one single person who ever attempted this sort of thing. I think it would be great if someone has completely and truly given up on their idea they should share it with everyone else in this forum and allow others to solve the problem that had brought the concept at a halt. Musical mechanic in case no one answered your question couse I’m not sure now, A good magnetic shield is a piece of steel. Put a piece of steel between two magnets and they will not repel each other, even when like poles are facing. The problem I guess then is you can’t have a magnetic shield that is not affected by the magnet it is shielding. It’s been keeping me awake at night this one. If anyone knows of a way to shield a magnet without the shielding medium being affected by the magnet other than a great distance, please let us know. You might be saving the world. I didn’t hear anyone mention the Perendev motor. Has anyone heard what the latest is? It was very promising and then it went quiet. I have many concepts in my head most of them I can see why will not work. But with one concept so far I haven’t figured out why it should not work. I am planning on building something simple to find out what will happen. Hope none of you have given up. IT CAN BE DONE. Even if it is as perpetual as a permanent magnet is permanent. Magnets are cheap, using them for generating power even for a finite period of time beats polluting the environment and relying on oil companies. Keep thinking TEguy