Investigating method of self-propulsion

[arkain101]

I am just curious about a concept of where atoms can propell themselves, or create motion, using a technique of 90 degree seperation of angular velocity.

 

An example:

It is well known that momentum is conserved. This concludes obviously that if you throw a bowling ball away from you but have a string attatched you will gain no overall velocity, or distance.

 

The method I am proposing is 90 degree seperation of momentum.

 

Take for example you are in space (a frictionless enviroment) in the center of a very heavy tire ( a donut shaped object so you are at center of mass).

In your hand you have a string with a 5kg weight atatched to it. You spin the weight around your head at about 10cm length from center of rotation. (we will have to assume you spin the weight without wobbling your arm and while you do the pivot point is in such a place that the tire remains level. Just as if there is one center mass and one outter mass that is rotated around the larger center mass.

 

With a gentle spin we rotate the weight round and round and at a given moment as the weight is directly infront of our line of sight we let go of the string. The Last existing force on the string was pulling you towards the line of sight. The weight travels exactly perpendicular to your line of sight. At this point you are freely in motion and so is the weight. At a given moment, you clentch the string and stop the weight which tugs you at 90degrees to your direction of travel. Now the weight is stopped, and your moving slightly forward and toward the weight. You simply tug the weight towards you and real in your line as it floats towards you. At this point you have moved (x) distance and you are free to begin rotating the weight around your head again.

 

Under macroscopic conditions this may be errorness logic. However I propose this in the atomic structure for under this thesis.

 

For this to be correct it would suggest light or a photon infact does not carry momentum. Nor is it particle like. It is suggested that as a light wave enters and hits the electron it causes the charge attraction between the electron(s) and the nucleus to be temporaraly cut off, perportional the wave energy. The same way the string was released the force electric force is given a value of neutral charge which allows the electron to shoot out away from the atom untill it reaches a value perportional to that which the light wave provided to the system. This possibly causes a shift in motion of the atom, accelerating it, just as light appears capable to peform on an atom.

 

As the electron is 'reeled' in by the charge attraction, energy is spent in the charge, the same way energy was spend to retreive the weight, and this energy is relased in the form of light.

 

This being a correct model, the implication of course is a method to create atomic self prepullsion by syncroniztion the phase shift of all the atoms in the same direction, in which momentum guidence in achieved, via light source internal of vehicle.

 

Secondly, it would describe light as massless and momentumless. As the atom manages to cause its own movement by seperating momentum at 90 degree relations.

 

I have a rough illustration added to display the initial phase of seperation, of where directions and forces are displayed.

 

I wasnt able to calculate this myself. My assumption is that it would fail under the concept of macroscopic scale, due to the direct interaction of the string. However, as universal fundamental forces tend to display, no acceleration forces are present under force accelerations, such as gravity.

 

What are your thoughts?

[Tormod]

I am slightly confused. First you talk about atoms, but then you talk about sub-atomic particles. There is a huge difference, can you make it clear what you are talking about?

 

As for photons having mass or not, and light being massless and momentumless - this is already what relativity theory predicts.

 

Some links:

 

Does light have mass?

 

What is the Mass of a Photon?

 

Relativistic mass

[Farsight]

arkain: I'm a bit confused too, and sorry, but there's maybe quite a lot wrong with what you're describing. Whirling that weight faster and faster is just the gradual opposite of letting it go. And whilst a photon isn't a "billiard ball" type particle it does carry momentum. Its energy is usually given as hf, and the momentum as hf/c. Yes it's usually described as being massless, but I just love this line from Tormod's first link:

 

For example the mass of a box of light is more than the mass of the box and the sum of the masses of the photons (the latter being zero).

 

Note that photons are absorbed by the bonds (think tetherball), and check out the Compton Effect.