Queso Posted February 25, 2007 Report Posted February 25, 2007 I love hallucinating. You can go into a dark cave for a week (with provisions, obviously....unless you want to starve to hallucinate, too) It is to my understanding that light deprivation for days gets 5-meo-dmt flowing through you, a psychedelic, allowing you to see in the dark.Everything Glows.You're close to god... I've never done it, supposedly Jesus did. Try it. Another way to hallucinate is shamanism; Entheogenic substances. But watch out!! The american government made these beautiful keys illegal 'cause they don't want you to SEE.(Lumped them into the "drugs" catagory.Examples with their natural source: Psilocybin (mushrooms) LSD (ergot) Mescaline (peyote) DMT (Your brain HAHAHAHA. And some types of grass, and vine, and toad):) Make sure what you do is legal, if you care. If you don't care, then press enter. Also, check out "Dream Machine" Google it. Fun way to hallucinate. I prefer the term "Vision" It gives hallucinations unnecessary absurd meaning which, in many cases, lead to introspective awareness. A lot of people have the same hallucinations. Their reoccuring themes and characters are called Archetypes. Jung had a lot of fun with those. And to answer your question, When I hallucinate, I focus my third eye on the unconsciousness, which is all of the "binary mentalic feedback" that's happening in your mind. The unconsciousness is a vast pool of everything you've ever known.Everything that's ever been shared with you auratically.It consists of memories, feelings, thoughts (even ones that are not yours!) It's a very mysterious aspect of our consciousness. Psychedelics surface this part of the mind Automatically.I don't care if they are illegal in america. America is DUMB. Seriously. Psychedelics are the most mind boggling things I've ever encountered on this planet in this universe. When I hallucinate, I just watchand listen. I'm either hallucinating a conversation between my many layers of self, or maybe I'm experiencing pyramidal transcendence and I close my eyes and see a beautiful, intriquit, infinitely detailed triangular mandala with many layers spinning slowly. Fitting perfectly. Sometimes when we hallucinate, we see things we've never even seen before. This is why DMT is so interesting. If you don't know anything about DMT, please go read about it. It's in us right now. Why? HAHAHA. Dreams are hallucinations. Awareness is not necessary to hallucinate, although if you are, it adds layers to the hallucination, like a branch in a tree. Imagine everything around you glowing from the inside.Swaying with the rhythm of god, which islove, and everything is as gooey as an oil painting.Imagine your whole body vibrating in harmony with the Earth around you.Imagine a beam of white light flowing inthru your head and down your spine, spinning rainbow chakras, giving you infinite clarity of thought, and understanding.Imagine Krishna. Buddha. Imagine the metaphorics. Aural hallucinations are my favorite. I've heard ocean waves turn into a wash of futuristic metallic howls that spilled out of a surfers belly button. Everyone knows that farting feels good. So good.I was once in an infinite void of organic sacks of all sizes, that were all justreleasing gas. It was a symphony of relief!It was the sillyest thing I've ever heard. It went on and on for at least an hour, until I probably forgot about it and moved on thru space. Sometimes I hear distinct voices, and they give me really strange information that sometimes applies to my life, or appears to be totally random. Either way, whenever I hallucinate, I laugh so hard. And I love to laugh. Life is absurd. Our body is amazing. Our Earth is so beautiful. Imagine a crystaline baphomet assembled by light and sacred geometry. What does it mean? Imagine ripping out a double helix of DNA from your wrist and reprogramming your hydrogen bonds! "The iguana will bite those who do not dream" I have created a beautiful world for myself in this stupid country I was born in.Don't get me wrong. America is beautiful (in the right places)It's just all these crazy fools trying to manipulate my divine journey, who've forgotten the keys to the ancient kingdom. "Have you been born yet, and are you alive?" I hallucinate all day long. I just love my mind and my body and what it does in this space. Every stone, a jewel. OK? Just listen to yourself. The hallucinations will surface. Quote
HydrogenBond Posted February 25, 2007 Report Posted February 25, 2007 There is a legal herb called salvia divinorum that can make one hallucinate. The affect only lasts about 10mins. I tried it once because it was legal. I had the hallucination that I had an extra joint in my legs between the knees and hips, that would allow me to fold into a tight package. A part of my brain was still objective, knowing this was not what my eyes were seeing. But the imagination made it feel possible. Quite hilarious. It lasted about 5-10 min, then I was totally back to normal. The body digests the active chem very quickly. There are supposedly 5 levels of affect and I was having a level 2 affect. It left a bad take in my mouth that lingered for hours (yuck!). The psycho-active chemical in Salvia Divinorum does not fall under any of the categories associated with all the known illegal drugs. It is sort of a unique and interesting chemical class onto itself, making it legal. The diviner's sage comes from the jungles in central Mexico and is used in the medical practices of medicine men. Quote
Queso Posted February 25, 2007 Report Posted February 25, 2007 Salvia hallucination: My legs turned into a highway, and shot out into a giant raging sun that was burning infront of me. It was huge. On this highway that were my legs, there were words coming back and forth. Flying into me, flying into the sun. My friend laughed, I heard him. I saw music notes, tangible, floating. I don't do salvia anymore. After salvia showed me what it had to, I felt prickly. Like a cactus. i was irritated. it's not pleasant. Just weird. It's still legal, too. Quote
jungjedi Posted February 26, 2007 Report Posted February 26, 2007 im an amature mycologist.and jung loves his hallucinations.oh,yea.ive been back in time.saw alien beings.created incredible music in my head.ayuaska was the best,better than ketamine.from what i can bring back and remmember from these trips is that there is more to reality then what are immediate sences tell us.america is a very dangerous place to try these experiments and to have these experiences.i was a part of an online community that gave me some guidence and support Quote
maikeru Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 That's affirmative Fatstep, you're spot on. :) (btw, that was a very nice post. :) ) I should apologize for my ignorance. Maybe I should clarify what I mean, as it's perfectly reasonable that the concept of a hallucination (while defined in multiple dictionaries) is different to us all. I've been extraordinarily low (hypoglyc) on a few occasions. To the point where I was laying on the floor, sort of awake, but unable to will myself to move. A strange feeling, very much akin to those dreams people describe where they are being chased but cannot run. (A quick mention to my dog, Galiath, who has helped me wake up on more than one occasion by barking intensely and licking my ears... good boy! :D :D ). It's super strange, like the simple act of moving toward the food is taking too much energy away from breathing and heart beat, that I must move inches then stop to rest, then move inches again, then stop to rest... then, calmly mind you, ingest something with high sugar density (i.e. panic is really bad because it burns away the remaining energy too quickly, so everything must be smooth and steady...) The hallucinations vary, and hallucination may not be the right term, but I usually connect to the environment in new ways, have a sense of unity or oneness with the universe, and have even had the sense of watching my own consciousness as if it were a movie. Like I'm there, but my body and mind are on autopilot, no intentional control from me... It's so hard to capture in succinct words the vastness and bewilderment of these experiences. I've rewritten this paragraph like three times now and still don't think it gets across adequately my intent... I've worked out too hard as well, and see what happens during a hypoglycemic episode more as the shutting out of non-essential stimuli, internally directing all available energy to the functions required for life and finding food quickly. In some ways, it's a bit zen... ;) Love that honey. Cheers. :cup: It must be terribly scary in retrospect for you. I've noticed that sometimes diabetics keep glucose tablets or crackers on hand. It must be for situations like this. I've experienced a oneness feeling when being very focused while playing piano, typing, or meditating (I sometimes practice Zen-like meditation, just focused on breathing and clearing and focusing my mind), but I don't think it's related to low blood sugar, as yours was. And I agree with your reasoning. During hypoglycemia, it's critical that the body not shut down and keep functioning. Well, don't get too much into that kind of zen, my friend. ;) Quote
Queso Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 Somethings we absorb allow us to hallucinate. Somethings we do allow us to hallucinate. We are programmed to hallucinate. So what do you see? Inner vision is an exercise just like everything else. Pyramidal transcendence. Spinning triangular mandala. They could be meaningful, or totally random, like a glimpseof a woman on a bike, ora bird, orthe feeling of something familar...can't quite remember... Quote
Michaelangelica Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 Hi there, I am interested in hullicinating. I understand that sleep depriviation is a cause. i was wondering how long you must not sleep for to hallucinate? Thanks!Quicker by far is sensory deprivation. Blindfold, hand-muffs, silent room etc Also according to CIA research is sensory deprivation is the most effective torture available. Thats perhaps one reason they keep Guantanamo bay inmates locked up for 22-23 hours a day in a windowless cell Just read this article in Cosmos an excellent Oz Science magazine. You might pick it up in a libraryLSD etc is also a quick way to hallucinateTHE ACID TESTTHE ACID TEST It's been banned for 35 years, but some scientists argue that a comeback for the therapeutic use of psychedelic drugs like LSD is overdue. But is there a place for LSD in medicine today, asks Alex Wilde. Queso 1 Quote
InfiniteNow Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 I should apologize for my ignorance.Not at all. :) The glucose tablets are in my pocket at all times, because sometimes it hits quickly and there is no time to search for food. It's like living as a boyscout, being ever vigilant and prepared. I cannot allow myself to be in an area and not have some resource of food or sugar. The episodes such as those described in my other post tend to happen in the middle of the night. I wake up, not really aware, as if still dreaming, but drenched in a cold sweat. It takes a few minutes to summon the resources to understand what is happening, and when I do, it then takes another few minutes to put myself to action. It's just a part of life really... The reference to honey before was that honey is, by far, my favorite thing when hypoglycemic. It is essentially high energy, dense sugar, and is more or less "predigested" by the bees so it gets into my system quickly. I can literally feel the difference in my cognition within 60 seconds of taking those few spoonfuls of honey. Great stuff. Love those bees. :) Do the boy scouts offer a badge for injections and resourcefulness? :rant: Quote
Johnson Posted April 2, 2007 Report Posted April 2, 2007 I was very interested in sleep deprivation a long time ago, and the longest I went was around 6 days, from what I can remember with all the reading I've done on sleep deprivation, I think you would have to go around 2 weeks, before you start to visually hallucinate. I remember reading a study (I think it is on wikipedia under sleep deprevation) about a guy who was studied by doctors about sleep deprivation. After about 11 days, He mistook a light pole for a human being and started conversing with it, or something like that. He also had a mental breakdown after about 2 weeks, when he thought the doctors were against him and he ran out the room, and didn't want to talk to anyone. I would say you would feel the full effects of sleep deprivation after about 7-11 days of NO sleep. Quote
CraigD Posted April 2, 2007 Report Posted April 2, 2007 I was very interested in sleep deprivation a long time ago, and the longest I went was around 6 days, from what I can remember with all the reading I've done on sleep deprivation, I think you would have to go around 2 weeks, before you start to visually hallucinate.From what I’ve been able to gather on the subject, 14 days is a bit longer than the maximum sleepless periods found in actual, well-observed experiments.I remember reading a study (I think it is on wikipedia under sleep deprevation) about a guy who was studied by doctors about sleep deprivation. After about 11 days, He mistook a light pole for a human being and started conversing with it, or something like that. He also had a mental breakdown after about 2 weeks, when he thought the doctors were against him and he ran out the room, and didn't want to talk to anyone. I think Johnson is referring to the 1964 experience of Randy Gardner, which set the current world record of 11 days, 0 hours. Although Gardner reported no hallucinations, observers noted not only the street pole episode, but delusional behavior, such as claiming to be a professional American football player actually playing in a game. A difficulty in measuring how long one can stay awake is that a person may experience brief periods of sleep, but be unaware of them. I’ve known several honest people who have claimed to have remained awake for 2+ weeks, much longer than measured in any well-observed experiment, and suspect this phenomena explains the discrepancy, and also explains the discrepancy with my personal experience with sleep depravation, such as the one I describe in “Another personal sleep-depravation anecdote” in the “Sleep Deprivvvvvv” thread, in which I’ve never managed to remain awake for even 72 hours. A well-run experiment, then, requires a team of observers to both help keep the subject awake, and detect if they fall asleep – though in these days of inexpensive digital cameras, large computer disk drives, telephones and engaging video games, I think such an experiment could be conducted without the need for a team of observers to be constantly present. However, even under careful visual observation, unless the subject constantly engages in a task requiring an awake state, such as walking or repetitive button-pushing, it may be difficult to determine if they are actually, continuously, awake. I imagine an experimental setup involving walking and button-pushing has problems, because I’m not sure that anyone is capable of doing these tasks for long, uninterrupted periods without stress and pain. An additional complication is that some experts have expressed concern that sleep depravation experiments may be dangerous for the subject, adding ethical concerns and legal risks for anyone participating in a sleep depravation experiment. It’s wise to assume almost any experiment involving human beings may have ethical and legal complications. Quote
InfiniteNow Posted April 2, 2007 Report Posted April 2, 2007 A difficulty in measuring how long one can stay awake is that a person may experience brief periods of sleep, but be unaware of them. I’ve known several honest people who have claimed to have remained awake for 2+ weeks, much longer than measured in any well-observed experiment, and suspect this phenomena explains the discrepancy…Craig just raised one of the most important points regarding the study of sleep, or lack thereof… Although he did not use this term directly, his previous posts on Hypography lead me to believe that he is aware of it and just didn't list it here... So, for the rest of you, a useful concept to look into is “microsleep.” It really throws off the whole, “How many days/How many hours awake?” measurements pretty significantly… Facts about Sleep and FatigueMicrosleeps are brief, unintended episodes of loss of attention associated with events such as blank stare, head snapping, prolonged eye closure, etc., which may occur when a person is fatigued but trying to stay awake to perform a monotonous task like driving a car or watching a computer screen. Microsleep episodes last from a few seconds to several minutes, and often the person is not aware that a microsleep has occurred. In fact, microsleeps often occur when a person's eyes are open.<…>Microsleeps increase with cumulative sleep debt. In other words, the more sleep deprived a person is, the greater the chance a microsleep episode will occur. Quote
niviene Posted April 2, 2007 Report Posted April 2, 2007 Wow, this is really interesting. Several months ago I resigned finally from my aux duties to finish up grad school, but while I was doing all that I was working over 40 hours a week third-shift and in school full time pursuing a joint JD/MBA. Each week from Tuesday to Thursday I was unable to sleep due to courses and work. I would get off Tuesday at 8am, and be unable to sleep again until getting off Thursday at 8am (or about 8:30 by the time I got home). I had classes all day on those days, with those two days also requiring my MBA meetings until 10pm, just in time to get home, in uniform, and on the road to work - literally no time to sleep. I remember that I felt the most affected at night, while on duty, but not while I was active. Anytime I would park the cruiser to wait or watch, I experienced that nodding-off someone mentioned in an early post. I had no idea I was so tired (although, duh, I had to be) and I'd go from periods of being active where I was not at all sleepy and I didn't feel that the lack of sleep hindered my reasoning or functioning ability - nor did I have any idea I was nodding off until the physical head droop as I nodded off woke me up. I do specifically remember on several occasions thinking I had seen a big or something scurry, out of the corner of my eye, just as the same poster had said (sorry, I'm too lazy to look up quotes, hehe). I always tried to keep active because I was afraid I'd nod off and not know it - at times even ditching the cruiser to patrol on foot to stay awake. It never occurred to me that those little things (what I thought were bugs scurrying - and that only happened a handful of times, not like I thought there were thousands of bugs everywhere, just once in awhile) were hallucinations! Also - hearing my name being called. At times I was sure I heard my mother calling my name, softly, as if I was nearby and she wanted to show me something in a catalog she was looking at (that's the image I always have of her, she was always looking at a magazine or something). Wow, really interesting, and spot on - I'd say that those were microsleeps right there. Buffy and Queso 2 Quote
Fatstep Posted June 18, 2007 Report Posted June 18, 2007 This past week I didn't sleep at all. I awoke between 6:30PM and 7:00PM(Edit:Monday is when I woke up) and I did not sleep until Sunday(today). I fell asleep around 1:00AM and slept until about 20 minutes ago. I never once hallucinated, not did I feel sleepy until last night, I took no drugs, so I don't know how long it'd take to hallucinate. Quote
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