Queso Posted March 7, 2007 Report Posted March 7, 2007 Do you think poetry should manifest and be shared in the Lounge? Quote
Buffy Posted March 7, 2007 Report Posted March 7, 2007 I voted yes! I like poetry even though I'm not good enough at it to contribute. Poetry can be many things to many people. It can be powerful as well, and people who engage in it should be aware of how dangerous it can be and be willing to accept the consequences for engaging in it. Similarly, no poetry can demand attention or respect, it will be judged in the marketplace of The Lounge. Nonetheless, this is an entreaty to respect the notion that the Lounge is a place for quiet contemplation. Interplay is encouraged, but take tempers elsewhere (goes for action or reaction). And above all, "Quality is Superior to Quantity"... Respect and be respected,Buffy Quote
Pyrotex Posted March 13, 2007 Report Posted March 13, 2007 I not only concur, but I also agree. BTW, we do have a rather large repository of poems (of any length) (and quatrains) stored around here. Those two threads are virtually begging for a poetry contest or two. Waddayasay? Quote
Boerseun Posted March 14, 2007 Report Posted March 14, 2007 Yes, of course. But only when keeping Prime Directive #1 in mind:"Quality is Superior to Quantity"... Quote
Queso Posted March 14, 2007 Author Report Posted March 14, 2007 I don't believe you have applied the function of exercise. Debate, is an exercise to further a collective understanding.There's a lot of debate around here @ Hypography and that's a good thing. Poetry isn't always good. Poetry is still poetry.To get to the good poetry, you have to go thru the bad.For me, as an artist,I need to exercise my ability to construct words,especially on the Fly. Some of us use the Quatrain corner as the simplest form of mind gym.I read some quatrains, click "New Reply"And stream. It happens in the moment.Improvisation is taking into consideration everything you can recall that you've ever known,so of course even if one doesn't rhyme, one mustremember that rhyming was an essential keyin the evolutionary assembly of Poetry. I think it's beautiful, even if it's gibberish. Especially if it's gibberish.Gibberish scrambles our psyche. Did you know? S'why I love those foreign films. Anyway, every word's a footstep. In conclusion, I think you should recognize that whether you can cognize my poetic information is unimportant.To me, every quatrain's a load out of this orgasmic river of creativity that backs up in my body and every creative thing I do is a release, and these quatrains are an exercise just like your debates are an exercise we are both learning. we are both learning different things. I don't care at all if sometimes the poetry appears to be bammer.The words themselves are only half of it's purpose.The other half is the release, don't ever forget.I'm a selfish artist, and I need my fix.For some strange cosmic reason, I feel attracted to the Lounge and spill my beans there. Are you saying, Boerseun, that I should only post the Chronic quatrains, and throw out the bammer ones? These methods are not my genre of beliefs, nuh uh no way- I gotta play in the void of everything to see what happens. I gotta experiment. The interaction in the quatrain corner is unique, us poets, we bounce off each other, we vibe... it's truly unique I never get to spit jazz with ghastly souls like bouncy balls it's just wonderful. Quote
Boerseun Posted March 14, 2007 Report Posted March 14, 2007 I'm afraid I'm being baited into an elaborate response here. But seeing as we're streaming, 'tis fine, I'll try to keep it short. Poetry is fine. Thoughtful, meaningful poetry, that is. If you believe that its necessary for you to exercise your poetry muscle, in stream-of-consciousness typing, 'streaming' your thoughts onto a blank screen after whacking the Quick Reply button and firing away, the chances of it being thoughtful and meaningful poetry is remote. No offense intended. The only way for you to exercise your poetic skills is to type it, post it, and take constructive criticism seriously. Then reassess what you've written, see where the criticism comes from, and so you learn. Posting non-stop stream-of-consciousness 'poems' might come across as incoherent drivel to people who are specifically not at a poetry website. They are at a Science forum. What will happen, is that people will see you've posted something, and they will simply scroll down to the next guy's post without reading yours. Your posts simply makes no sense. So, you will hardly ever get any constructive criticism. So, you won't learn. You're not exercising your poetry muscle. You're just upping Hypo's total post count. The only thing you are exercising, is your typing skills. And that's about it. If you're serious in keeping on doing this in order to practice and exercise poetry, and you want to fine-tune your skills, I seriously recommend going to one of those poetry forums I referred you to, and join them. They will take your mission seriously, and they will steer you in the right direction through proper help, advise, constructive criticism, etc. Hey - you might even learn something there. You never know. But no, in principle, I have nothing against poetry in the Lounge. I will insist on "Quality over Quantity", however. There. I kept it relatively short, I guess. Quote
Tormod Posted March 14, 2007 Report Posted March 14, 2007 There. I kept it relatively short, I guess. Relatively shortsaid the foxwhen the saw the bear's tail. Quote
Queso Posted March 14, 2007 Author Report Posted March 14, 2007 I insist on quality over quanity on a daily basis with everything I do. I know where you are coming from, and I understand.Just letting you know, to get to the gold, I probably have to walk on poop. Quote
Buffy Posted March 14, 2007 Report Posted March 14, 2007 Just letting you know, to get to the gold, I probably have to walk on poop.Hint: avoid making the rest of us walk through your poop. Five quatrains in 15 minutes constitutes mass production of poop with the hope that one might be good. Ya might wanna mull them more before posting em... The fewer the words the harder the exposition,Buffy Quote
Queso Posted March 14, 2007 Author Report Posted March 14, 2007 I know how zen silence can be, Buffy. That isn't the point of Exercising.If I'm lifiting weights, I'm not gonna lift up one weight and then...save the rest of lifting for tomorrow, do it in moderation...make every lift worth it, yeah that feels good. Lifting it once, yeah. Woo. What a work out. I'm looking for long-term results, and if you look at my poetry website and look at the poetry I was writing BEFORE hypography, and then read the newer stuff, there is obviously a difference!I'm much more of a better poet due to all the words I've exchanged here, there, and in-between.So what if the quatrains suck, they're fun to compile. Even at the rate of Charlie Parker, they're just simply FUN. I save the good stuff for the other poetry threads. The quatrain corner is different! I mean, there are already thousands of posts anyway. Many of them suck! Many of mine, many of all yours. It's just evident we need to practice, is it not?? I practice by A) Reading:D Writing All of my good poetry was an accident.And that's just my opinion! I'm selfish!I do it for me. I'm just opening up my gates and seeing what flows out.The internet, the quatrain corner, hypography, is amazing for that. Cheers Quote
Buffy Posted March 14, 2007 Report Posted March 14, 2007 Practice is good! I'm encouraging you to practice! I and others here are encouraging you to practice elsewhere! Save the good stuff for the Quatrain Corner, just like a lot of the other contributors to it do! There are jems in here and some of us like reading them. Its actually gotten much harder since you turned it into your practice area. So mebe you could practice in another thread? Hmmmm? Thank you for your copacetic cooperation,Buffy Quote
Queso Posted March 14, 2007 Author Report Posted March 14, 2007 Okay. Poetry Practice thread is born.Sorry for making it Hard. Quote
Queso Posted March 14, 2007 Author Report Posted March 14, 2007 P.s. What are some of those gems, IYO? Quote
Buffy Posted March 14, 2007 Report Posted March 14, 2007 They're in there somewhere! Its just Hard to find them now! :confused: I'll go look later... My poetry might be better if someone just cut it up into little pieces, :DBuffy Quote
Queso Posted March 14, 2007 Author Report Posted March 14, 2007 That's actually a very cool technique. Sometimes I print a bunch of of my poetry and cut it up and recompile it. (Thanks William Burroughs) Quote
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