Boerseun Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 I parked this in Physics and Maths, because I'm sure there must be a mathematical reason for this. But: If you take something with surface area x, and you cut it up into various slices, and you rearrange all the slices into some other shape, if you use all the slices, your surface area will still be x, right? Then can somebody explain the following to me? Quote
sanctus Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 very curious. ??????But there is something else very strange the total surface without counting the slices is :13*5/2=32.5The sum of the surface of the slices is: Dark green triangle: 5*2/2=5Red triangle: 8*3/2=12Green shape: =7Orange shape: =8Hence the total is: =32 Sot there seems to be a problem with total area being the sum of parts... Quote
Tormod Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 This one has been posted before. The secret lies in the angle of the longest line (compare the sizes of the triangles it leaves above the figure). Quote
Boerseun Posted March 12, 2007 Author Report Posted March 12, 2007 This one has been posted before. ;) The secret lies in the angle of the longest line (compare the sizes of the triangles it leaves above the figure).How's that possible? The right-hand line is 5 units in length, the bottom line is 13 in length in both pics, so the line on top will be the same length and angle? You don't maybe have a link to where it's been posted? Quote
Tormod Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 Just hold a ruler against the screen and compare the straightness of the lines... ;) Quote
Tormod Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 To be more precise, the upper line is curved. Quote
Tormod Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 The exact same shape has been posted here, with explanations in the comments: Impossible Triangle Illusion no.2 - Mighty Optical Illusions Quote
Boerseun Posted March 12, 2007 Author Report Posted March 12, 2007 Haha - the bastards! ;) Nonetheless, printed out the curvature is vague enough for it to be a pretty cool party trick! :) Quote
pgrmdave Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 It's easy to see that at the point five squares over and two up from the bottom left point. The hypotenuse of the bottom triangle passes through the point on the graph nearly perfectly, the top triangle is noticably lower. Quote
ughaibu Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 This is known as Curry's paradox, though there's another paradox of the same name: Curry's Paradox (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy) Here's a page including a square version: Missing square puzzle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Quote
Eclogite Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 This is a great example of why eyewitness testimony is so unreliable - about as useful as mammary devices on a masculine bovine quadruped.;) Quote
Qfwfq Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 Just hold a ruler against the screen and compare the straightness of the lines... :)But that's cheating! :rant: If it's done right, the line is straight but the gridpoint is still lost in it's width, which is harder to notice! The mathematical way to look at it is by comparing the three ratios: [math]\frac{2}{5}\;\frac{3}{7}\;\frac{5}{12}[/math] For the intermediate point to really be on the line, they'd have to be the same. Quote
CraigD Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 This is known as Curry's paradox, though there's another paradox of the same name: Curry's Paradox (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy) Here's a page including a square version: Missing square puzzle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaTo clarify, the “Curry’s paradox” described in the SEoP link, and the one in the wikipedia link, have the same name only because the first name of their authors’ is omitted. The triangle and similar illusions are by armature stage magician Paul Curry, while the Liar’s paradox variation is by matematicial Haskell B. Curry. Other than the last names of their authors, these 2 “paradoxes” are unrealated. The triangle is really more of an illusion, or trick, than a paradox. ughaibu 1 Quote
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