maikeru Posted April 15, 2007 Report Posted April 15, 2007 ...a more traversally viable region (mediteranean), the higher probabilty for dominating diverse culture (greeks, romans, Turks(trinity)) , and since these cultures had eaier access to forestreal surroundings (europe) thier mainstay was set in concrete.... the only reason the persians are still around today(pretty much as they were 500+ yrs ago) - no-one could be bothered visiting them. (colonisation) ... I wonder if we will be successfull today? No, you've gotten your history mixed up. The Turks didn't show up in Turkey until much later than the ancient Greeks and Romans: 1072 A.D. From there, they gradually took over the rest of Anatolia. Turkish people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Oğuz were the main Turkic people who moved into Anatolia after 1072 CE. Small bands of Turks began their migration following the victory of the Seljuks, led by Alp Arslan, against the Byzantines at the Battle of Manzikert and this paved the way for Turkish dominance in Anatolia. This also marked the beginning of the decline of the Byzantine empire. Quote
charles brough Posted April 25, 2007 Report Posted April 25, 2007 I once wrote a book about the "Cycle of Civilization" and it was often believed back in the last century that civilizations or societies "collapsed" together in unison! There may well have been a general collapse of several more primitive societies existing in the south central part of the Europe-Asian land mass. It is likely that it was in conjunction with the change from brass to iron. I know that barbaric Europe had masses of iron founderies turning out iron implements almost four thousand years ago. But we have changed from a machine to an electronic society without a "collapse." Societies do not rise an fall because of such "causes." They rise and fall because the ideology that holds them together always, with age, finally becomes obsolete and the society is no longer able to deal with the changing world efficiently. So, another and better society arises unified by a yet more advanced ideological bond to eventually replace it. charles, HOME PAGE Quote
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