The Department of Positive Out of Body Possibilities

[Turtle]

Hi Tim. The explanations of OBE's & related experiences come from the emerging field termed 'neuro-theology'. In short, for most people these experiences manifest as a result of the particulars of the structure (e.g. size, interconnections, etcetera) and their coincident functioning during certain chemical cascades often associated with distress or injury. Moreover, people may be born with larger or smaller brain structures (temporal lobe, pineal , etcetera) or more or less interconnectedness in such a way as to predispose them to out of body experience and/or contact with netherworld-type personalities and landscapes.

 

Here's a couple links; the first to an article on neuro-theology, and the second to a thread here on the subject. No worries; it's all in your head.

 

neurotheology article

 

http://hypography.com/forums/theology-forum/9410-biotheology.html

[Tarantism]

Tim Brewer:

 

it sounds to me like what you are talking about could be linked to something unforseen:

 

DMT in the brain. psychologists have stated that accidental DMT releases in the brain could account for supposed out of body experiences and alien abductions. we know that DMT is present in the brain. we also know high dose ( 40-60 mg intravenous) experience reports are amazingly similar to reports from people who claim to have had an "out of body experience" or people who feel that they have been "abducted by aliens".

 

odd de ja vu

familiarity

I am meeting an old friend; how about some tea?

no tea tonight

no rest for those who test the limits

what are the limits?

the end; ahaha; no concept of an end

circling this ancient structure

I am content on

simply completing my orbit; round

and round the merrygoround

then we all fall down.

down?

 

I embrace my guide, and thank him from the depths of my soul for providing such an opportunity to discover that which I had been seeking all my life, however fleeting it was I know it will stay with me forever. I feel such peace upon returning to the surroundings I left just five minutes ago, no more of the depression that normally weighs my shoulders, or the anxiety that tightens my chest, no thoughts to make me doubt myself or others, just a serene knowledge that everything is all right, and that the breadth of experience in the universe parallels infinity.

 

these quotes are from the erowid experience vaults. based on second-hand accounts, people that i know who have tested this chemical recreationally have reported back to me that they have "flown" and "become their spirit selves". one person told me recently that she "lived all stages of seven lifetimes".

 

some more on DMT:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine

 

Speculation on DMT and its possible presence in the Pinal Gland

 

i do not feel that this should be discounted as a possibility.

[Tim Brewer]

Hi Tim. The explanations of OBE's & related experiences come from the emerging field termed 'neuro-theology'. In short, for most people these experiences manifest as a result of the particulars of the structure (e.g. size, interconnections, etcetera) and their coincident functioning during certain chemical cascades often associated with distress or injury. Moreover, people may be born with larger or smaller brain structures (temporal lobe, pineal , etcetera) or more or less interconnectedness in such a way as to predispose them to out of body experience and/or contact with netherworld-type personalities and landscapes.

 

Here's a couple links; the first to an article on neuro-theology, and the second to a thread here on the subject. No worries; it's all in your head. :)

 

neurotheology article

 

http://hypography.com/forums/theology-forum/9410-biotheology.html

 

 

Thank you Turtle,

 

Tim

[Tim Brewer]

Austin concludes in a recent paper, "what we think of as our

'higher' functions of selfhood appear briefly to 'drop out,' 'dissolve,' or be 'deleted from consciousness'." When he spun out his theories in 1998, in the 844-page "Zen and the Brain,"

it was published not by some flaky New Age outfit but by MIT Press.

 

 

That was not the case with me,

 

Tim

[Tim Brewer]

Austin concludes in a recent paper, "what we think of as our

'higher' functions of selfhood appear briefly to 'drop out,' 'dissolve,' or be 'deleted from consciousness'." When he spun out his theories in 1998, in the 844-page "Zen and the Brain,"

it was published not by some flaky New Age outfit but by MIT Press.

 

 

That was not the case with me,

 

Tim

 

Warning:

 

The quote above is not mine, and I was wondering when somebody would do something like that.

 

Some people will go to all levels to try and stop this topic, by using my own information and name, to try and slow down this possibility.

 

They must really have something good to hide by doing something like this.

 

I do not give out my info, it must be somebody from this board that is using my personal information with out my permission.

 

If they can use mine, then they could use your's just as well, something to think about anyway here.

 

Try this site, it is safer, and I will be glad to answer any of your questions:

 

The Department of Positive Out of Body Possibilities | Communicating with future out of body people in a way that can be measured

 

 

Thank you,

Tim

[Buffy]

Hypography has logs of the locations of every time a user logs in and posts. I can assure you that all logins under your name came from the same Internet location, and it is not terribly easy to hack our software (nor would it really be worth the time it would take, even if one was skilled enough and had the time to waste).

 

It may be that the post above was proof of an out-of-body experience, but I and others have found this thread to be quite interesting, and hardly a target for conspiratorial suppression of the discussion...

 

I suspect people of plotting to make me happy, :phones:

Buffy

[Tim Brewer]

This reminds me of a time when somebody stole my wife credit card. I never called the police, because they didn't use the card as much as she did.

 

Our goal with this topic, is to record every possibility, and that even includes ones that saids it can't be done, because even behind those comments, questions, and statements, lie more clues that need to be explored.

 

Please fill free to list every reason you have ever heard of,

Why it is not possible to have an out of body experience?

 

Now no animals were actually harmed during this experience, and that is the way I like it.

 

Thank you,

Tim

[Queso]

Why it is not possible to have an out of body experience?

 

:bow_flowers:

 

I don't get it.

It is possible.

I can tell you how to do it, again, if you want.

[Tim Brewer]

:bow_flowers:

 

I don't get it.

It is possible.

I can tell you how to do it, again, if you want.

 

Please do,

 

Tim

[InfiniteNow]

In a short five squared posts, this thread has gone far beyond braingate.

 

Orby will tell you DMT and rejection of social norm as a response to your quesiton. He's 42.7% correct.

[Queso]

thank you for the summorization, not.

 

I say this every time again and again.

WAKE INDUCED LUCID DREAMING

 

you can do this in your bed, every single one of you

but do you?

 

google it. it's amazing. it is an out of body experience. it could be related to DMT. they are similar, in my opinion,

but that is obviously not scientific proof or anything.

[Queso]

My tek:

 

I go to sleep for about 4-6 hours and I wake up and read my dream journal and then lay back down.

I lay there and watch all the strange things that occur in my mind.

To fall asleep, all I would have to do is follow one of these little absurd scenes

but I don't. I just keep watching.

They become more vivid, and they become louder.

I breathe deep and slow.

My body starts to buzz anywhere from instantly laying down to twenty minutes sometimes, and when I feel (and hear) it buzzing I literally move my eyes upward and look up and I immediately hear loud SO LOUD I JUMP but I realized I can't move I'm not in my body.

My body enters sleep paralysis and every time this happens I see, feel, hear, experience the weirdest things.

I can sometimes control this with just my eye movements, blasting back and forth through what feels like a light speed tunnel. So fast, so loud.

It really scares a lot of people.

 

I thought I already talked about this?

I know a lot of people that have done this.

It might be hard, or it might be extremely easy. Sometimes I've just been sitting there upright and have fallen into this state and it feels like I was ripped out of my body.

I can't describe the amplitude of it all. It's so intense.

 

I wish you all would try it.

[Queso]

p.s. as for future people I don't know about all that all I know is right now and sometimes in the now I can blast off, totally sober. Just have to be in the right state of mind.

Your brain needs to be oscillating at a frequency around double that of pi

[Queso]

oh wait is this some kind of joke where he's just trying to get attention?

 

either way, everyone should lay down and blast off just for kicks.

 

no?

[Tim Brewer]

Thank you for your input, and thanking you for taking the time to learn more about this topic.

 

Everything in life takes it's allotted amount of time, but we should always focus on the every things, because it is part of nature. Everything, is something that effects everything, in such a way that it must be natural, this topic covers that possibility, because out of body experiences have lasted the test of time, as an everything, but we just have not given this energy the value it needs to have, if we are ever going to bridge this gap of making it happen, and knowing why we want it to happen, and all the great reasons that go with it.

 

Thank you for reading my thoughts,

Tim

[Queso]

If more people had OBE's then they would direct more energy towards them.

 

I know a few folks who do focus their energy in these regions(because they've had profoundly bizzarre experiences)

I myself am one of them. I don't know anyone else (personally) that can get into the right brain state with meditation and simply physically LOOK UP and be able to leave my body, controlling the channel with my eyes. It's the strangest thing.

There are numerous ways to induce an OBE, but I am still baffled it can be triggered with the eyes.

After reading old hindu yogic texts things made a lot more sense.

They all teach "third eye meditations"

It's archetypal.

goodnight

[Tim Brewer]

If more people had OBE's then they would direct more energy towards them.

 

I know a few folks who do focus their energy in these regions(because they've had profoundly bizzarre experiences)

I myself am one of them. I don't know anyone else (personally) that can get into the right brain state with meditation and simply physically LOOK UP and be able to leave my body, controlling the channel with my eyes. It's the strangest thing.

There are numerous ways to induce an OBE, but I am still baffled it can be triggered with the eyes.

After reading old hindu yogic texts things made a lot more sense.

They all teach "third eye meditations"

It's archetypal.

goodnight

 

Good question,

 

I believe that out of body afterlife is connected to seeing somehow, regardless if the seeing is different that what human experience, so you ight be right. I have never heard of a blind out of body experience, even Helen Keller who was blind at the time of her out of body experience claim to be able to see, so what was ever affecting her vision in The real world, was not doing this during that time, maybe that is because your inner core of energy is pure, with out any type of defects.

 

Energy does not get polluted, at least not as I can tell.

 

Now I have heard, even though I was not paying attention, that some has claimed that out of body experiences can happen in people who are having seizures, that can be brought on, just by strobe lights and video games.

 

I once had an out of body experience, and I felt it was real and I did leave my body, but I no longer want to have a seizure to prove it.

 

Do you really feel you leave your body during these situations, or are you dreaming?

 

Do you feel you are of sound mind when this happens, just like you are when you decide to explore this possibility, when you do what you do with your eyes.

 

All that you talk about is important, but I fee we need to know some other things as well, like what type of personality are you.

 

These are the for type that you might be,

 

Please feel free to pick one or more.

 

1) You like a lot of attention,

 

2) Take charge, get out of my way, no one can do it as good as you.

 

3) Love to analyze, into music, Arts, introvert, melancholy

 

4) Laid back easy going, get along with everybody

 

Are you right handed or left handed

 

Your age, give or take a couple either way, and how many times have you been able to do this?

 

What was you trying to do while you were in that state?

 

I you did leave your body, how did it eel when you came back into it?

 

Did you ever have a seizure during this time?

 

Please fill free to answer these questions, if you want too.

 

Thank you,

Tim