Newtonian Bowling

Jay-qu · June 17, 2007

ball mass=1.75

x=7.5

v=(-1.364,3.5)

CraigD · June 17, 2007

ball mass=1.75
x=7.5
v=(-1.364,3.5)

Left the 1, 2, 4, 6, 7 and 10.

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Jay-qu · June 17, 2007

:lol: its amazing how sensitive it actually is!

freeztar · June 18, 2007

ball mass=1.85

x=8.5

v=(-1.258,3)

CraigD · June 18, 2007

ball mass=1.85
x=8.5
v=(-1.258,3)

Left the 7.

I’ve modified the ASCII movie slightly. It rounds so that the ball and pin positions are represented more accurately, and lists the bodies that collide in each subsequent event.

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June 18, 2007

I’ve modified the ASCII movie slightly.

Does this mean a change to the basic code in post #1?

freeztar · June 18, 2007

ok

ball mass=1.85

x=8.5

v=(-1.257,3)

Come on 7! :turtle:

June 18, 2007

ok

ball mass=1.85
x=8.5
v=(-1.257,3)

Come on 7!

Time for the price is right!

ball mass=1.85

x=8.5

v=(-1.25:evil: 9,3)

freeztar · June 18, 2007

Time for the price is right!

Ok, I see how it is. Your bidding $1 eh?

:turtle:

CraigD · June 18, 2007

ball mass=1.85
x=8.5
v=(-1.257,3)

left the 7 and 10:

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CraigD · June 18, 2007

Does this mean a change to the basic code in post #1?

Yes – a single node of the code is changed by the addition of a couple of “+.5”s:

K W s B="" F  s B=$o(M() q:B=""  S X=WT-T(:cup:*VX(:(+X(;),Y=WT-T(B)*VY(B)+Y(B),$E(W(Y/.5+.51),X/.25+.51)=$E("123456789abcdef",B) ;XELCOL4(-1,2)

It doesn’t effect the simulation, just the way the ASCII movie displays. As it seems an improvement, I’ll update post #1 to have it

Time for the price is right!
ball mass=1.85
x=8.5
v=(-1.25,3)

Left the 7 (not “cheating” by trying it on your own simulation, eh?):

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June 18, 2007

Ok, I see how it is. Your bidding $1 eh?
:(

Ah...Em...ha...well...no, just, I didn't see anything below1.257, then you tried .258, so.. I went to .259..:cup:

Don't cha' hate it when they do that on the show? :turtle:

I'm the one with the sim on my Pc, Ya'd think I'd have it solved by now:eek_big:.

But it seems that eveytime CraigD is comfortable, something cropts up, that changes the code.

Somewhere in this post i heard.....Life is just a beta test....

freeztar · June 18, 2007

ball mass=1.83

x=8.5

v=(-1.257,3)

June 18, 2007

Left the 7 (not “cheating” by trying it on your own simulation, eh?)

No, guilty as charged! :turtle:

My frustrations, start because I have no prior experience in databse.

And I try to understand what you, JQ, Freeztar, and Janus, percieve (Outside of Newtonian Bowling) as an exersize in the relationship of facts.

It doesn't come easy to me, believe me, my brothers have tried.

I have Office Pro, because I like to "tinker" with Acess......

I Love Astronomy and Cosmology, and Its only now that I kick myself, because I didn't persue Calculus and Physics, in high school...:cup:

CraigD · June 18, 2007

ball mass=1.83
x=8.5
v=(-1.257,3)

WE HAVE A WINNER! B) B) :bounce:

B) B) :cup: ;) :wave: :( :turtle:

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June 18, 2007

My hat's off to Freeztar:bow:

:smart:

:rockon:

:out:

CraigD · June 18, 2007

After 15 tries by freeztar, 24 by all players, freeztar has won the first hypography Newtonian Bowling competition! Here’s a summary of the competion:

0. (example, doesn’t count): ball mass 3, x=1.5, (h,v)=(.87,1) -> 2 left: 4, 10

1. Jay-qu: ball mass 3, x=4, (h,v)=(.25,1.5) -> 2 left: 4, 7

2. chendoh: ball mass 3, x=1.5, (h,v)=(.86,1.3) -> 6 left: 1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8

3. chendoh: ball mass 3, x=5.5, (h,v)=(.2,1) -> 6 left: 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8

4. Janus: ball mass 3, x=3.5, (h,v)=(.3,1) -> 5 left: 3, 4, 6, 7, 8

5. Jay-qu: ball mass 3, x=4, (h,v)=(.2,1.5) -> 3 left: 4, 7, 10

6. freeztar: ball mass 3, x=4, (h,v)=(.13,1.5) -> 5 left: 3, 4, 6, 7, 10

7. freeztar: ball mass 3, x=5.1, (h,v)=(.01,2) -> 3 left: 2, 7, 8

8. Jay-qu: ball mass 1.75, x=4.5, (h,v)=(.2,3) -> 2 left: 7, 10

9. freeztar: ball mass 1.7, x=5.1, (h,v)=(.13,1.5) -> 5 left: 2, 4, 5, 6, 10

10. freeztar: ball mass 1.7, x=8, (h,v)=(.75,3) -> 10 left: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10

11. freeztar: ball mass 1.7, x=8.5, (h,v)=(-1.5,3) -> 3 left: 1, 8, 10

12. freeztar: ball mass 1.7, x=8.5, (h,v)=(-1.25,3) -> 4 left: 4, 7, 8, 10

13. freeztar: ball mass 1.8, x=8.5, (h,v)=(-1.25,3) -> 1 left: 10

14. freeztar: ball mass 1.8, x=8.5, (h,v)=(-1.25,3.1) -> 2 left: 8, 10

15. freeztar: ball mass 1.8, x=8.5, (h,v)=(-1.25,3.05) -> 4 left: 4, 7, 8, 10

16. freeztar: ball mass 1.85, x=8.5, (h,v)=(-1.25,3) -> 1 left: 10

17. freeztar: ball mass 1.85, x=8.5, (h,v)=(-1.26,3) -> 1 left: 7

18. freeztar: ball mass 1.85, x=8.5, (h,v)=(-1.255,3) -> 1 left: 10

19. Jay-qu: ball mass 1.75, x=8.5, (h,v)=(-1.464,3.5) -> 2 left: 7, 10

20. Jay-qu: ball mass 1.75, x=7.5, (h,v)=(-1.364,3.5) -> 6 left: 1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 10

21. freeztar: ball mass 1.85, x=8.5, (h,v)=(-1.258,3) -> 1 left: 7

22. freeztar: ball mass 1.85, x=8.5, (h,v)=(-1.257,3) -> 2 left: 7, 10

23. chendoh: ball mass 1.85, x=8.5, (h,v)=(-1.25,3) -> 1 left: 7

24. freeztar: ball mass 1.83, x=8.5, v=(-1.257,3) -> 0 left

If people want to keep playing, feel free - I’m going to bed now, though… :rockon:

Ideas for a next XELCOL4 competition include:

Adding pins
Reducing the diameters of the pins and/or ball
Adding random inaccuracies to the player’s input, running say 100 simulations, and counting the number of strikes. Player with the most strikes for a single input wins.
A pool simulation (still need to make some enhancements to the code to support this)

Votes and suggestions for a next competition are invited. :smart:

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