Turtle Posted September 28, 2009 Author Report Posted September 28, 2009 Were you planning on sanding and refinishing the whole chair? ~modest Oh hell no! Erhm...I mean, no Sir; I don't think that will be necessary. :dog: I did do a lot of planning over the two weeks while waiting for the clamps, but once I got them & started applying them I found that a certain premise of my planning was false and so it be for naught. :D I thought the hinge was flexible and was thinking of using some steam to soften it before clamping. Thinking further on this false premise, I was concerned that if I used steam the wood would swell and I wouldn't get the joint to close well. Anyway, I got the clamps & having made up my clamp boards earlier, I used one 4" C clamp & clamped them firm, but not tight, on the upper part of the leg above the break. Before adding other clamps I decided to push on the lower leg against the break to test how springy the hinge was and a firm, but gentle, push was all it took to pop what was a locked, not sprung, hinge and the break closed up 70%. But I digress. I'm planning to not sand any of the intact finish, but fill the void(s) with common wood filler, sand the filler , and then use artist's acrylic paint to disguise the breach. I won't add any doweling, or nails, or screws as I think the glue is adequate. The chair was apparently upside down and on a table when the owner leaned against the leg & broke it and in normal use i don't think enough sideways force gets applied to break it in the same area. It's worth noting that some reasons for using this construction method include economy, as it is cheaper to use smaller pieces that wouldn't normally be of use, and ecology, as you must needs cut down big trees to get big pieces and using big pieces to make intricate smaller pieces makes a lot of wasted small intricate pieces. :hihi: Now there is...nothing but laughter gurgling up in me, if not you too, so I better stop before I snork some hot coffee up my nasallities then cough and choke a sparay of it back out onto this monitor which is not mine. :cup: :cup: Quote
modest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Posted September 29, 2009 I'm planning to not sand any of the intact finish, but fill the void(s) with common wood filler, sand the filler , and then use artist's acrylic paint to disguise the breach. Yeah. I've tried that previously—not on wood, but ceramic. With a whole arsenal of paints at my disposal and a good eye for that sort of thing, and a good amount of effort I might add, I still came up with something less than ascetically pleasing on close (or fairly-moderate) inspection. But.... when i earlier noted "new construction" i meant "won't notice the flaws going by on a galloping horse". I think we're on the same page :hihi: ~modest Quote
Turtle Posted September 29, 2009 Author Report Posted September 29, 2009 Yeah. I've tried that previously—not on wood, but ceramic. With a whole arsenal of paints at my disposal and a good eye for that sort of thing, and a good amount of effort I might add, I still came up with something less than ascetically pleasing on close (or fairly-moderate) inspection. But.... I think we're on the same page :cup: ~modest or in the same saddle? :cup: we'll have to see if i have a "good eye" or not, but i have the arsenal of paints. :dog: the chair is just one of a set and the biggy for the owner is just to get this one back in sittable service. as to the C-clamps, all that paint pretty well covers the half-assed grinding of the seams left after casting and even slowing a steed to a walk, they're tough to see. then there is the fact that the screws on all of them don't quite center their swivels on their base-pads. i didn't have any yellow glue so used white, and as the weather has turned cool & rainy today i plan on leaving the clamps on another full day. ah well; gotta just make do with what one has. :D :hihi: Quote
modest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Posted September 29, 2009 or in the same saddle? :) we'll have to see if i have a "good eye" or not Yep, in the same saddle. And I'm quite sure you've got a good eye and a good hand... and this paragraph is starting to sound creepy... moving on... the chair is just one of a set and the biggy for the owner is just to get this one back in sittable service. Yeah, I should have guessed it was one in a set making refinishing even more impractical. Interesting how chairs always come in sets. You never see a single chair doing its own thing. Well... except for rocking chairs. Rocking chairs are the loners of the chair community. You can't put two of them side by side. I tried it once—went to bed with two rocking chairs sitting side by side on the porch and woke the next morning with a rocking bench fit for two. Of course, I didn't want a rocking bench so I cut the rockers off the feet and settled on having a normal bench. Sure enough, the next morning the bench was hanging from the ceiling, rocking in the wind. :confused: ~modest Quote
Turtle Posted September 29, 2009 Author Report Posted September 29, 2009 :hihi: guess i was a little obtuse. i'm blind in one eye, so i was poking fun at the other eye. funny story on that too, while we watch the glue dry. i had to get a new license a few weeks back and for my need i only had to wait in line, pay money, take an eye test, and get a photo taken. so i press my wee little pin head against the bar and there are 2 columns, and 5 rows of cells and in each cell of column 1, 5 letters of size variance larger at bottom rows up. column 2 cells are all blank. anyway, the gal says "read row 2 and i read the 5 letters in row 2 column 1 but i see no letters in row 2 column 2 so i stop reading. she says "read the rest." i says "there are no rest" she says "huh!?" i says "there are no letters in the box. she says "take your head away & try again." i says "ok". i do, i look, i read 5 characteres in r2c1 and no characters in r2c2. she says "that's never happened before. is something wrong with your eye?" i says "yes; it's blind". she says "erhm..uh...oh. ok then, that's too bad, [nervous giggle]; step over there for your photo. :hyper: long story a little longer, this is the first time a machine ever was set up to discrimate like this. no one ever asked if i was blind in one eye -they only ask if i wear corrective lenses- and i never volunteered the information. this is also a cautionary tale; i blinded my eye in an industrial woodworking accident while not wearing eye protection. :) nothin' funny about that. :confused: Quote
modest Posted September 29, 2009 Report Posted September 29, 2009 :) guess i was a little obtuse. i'm blind in one eye That would explain the quotes. Don't I look like a jackass :confused: In all honesty... the ceramic piece I was camouflaging was decorative and demanded something that nothing short of repainting the whole thing could deliver. I'm sure your chair's leg will fare far better. So... uh... are you making your own wood filler or do you have some? ~modest Quote
Turtle Posted September 29, 2009 Author Report Posted September 29, 2009 That would explain the quotes. Don't I look like a jackass :confused: In all honesty... the ceramic piece I was camouflaging was decorative and demanded something that nothing short of repainting the whole thing could deliver. I'm sure your chair's leg will fare far better. So... uh... are you making your own wood filler or do you have some? ~modest i think i mentioned my accident here a few years ago so i figure everyone should have read it- because obviously they must have read everything i wrote :hyper:- & remembered it. don't i look like an obtuse writer with an enormous head. :) a lot of what i know of ceramic repair comes from watching antiques road show. nothing i'd care to attempt other than to the level of you "won't notice it going by on a galloping horse". now that little expression came from my dad, along with other such gems as "good enough for government work" and "you can't see it from my house." again, obtuse references that i just go along presuming folks know/get. :hihi: i do learn some facts from the roadshow furniture guys in terms of history and prices of stuff, but i bust a gut when they get all hoity-toity about woodworking techniques when it's obvious they have only read the how-to & never actually did the work. i've got a little tube of wood-filler. it's light in color, but as i plan to paint it not stain it, i'm not concerned that it doesn't match. Quote
modest Posted September 30, 2009 Report Posted September 30, 2009 i think i mentioned my accident here a few years ago so i figure everyone should have read it- because obviously they must have read everything i wrote :doh:- & remembered it. don't i look like an obtuse writer with an enormous head. :hyper: Hogwash! An obtuse writer with an enormous head would think every joke needs a subtitle. I rather enjoy the clever turns of phrase and inside jokes your posts often make... even if I rarely get them all:) a lot of what i know of ceramic repair comes from watching antiques road show. nothing i'd care to attempt other than to the level of you "won't notice it going by on a galloping horse". now that little expression came from my dad, along with other such gems as "good enough for government work" and "you can't see it from my house." again, obtuse references that i just go along presuming folks know/get. :lol: I think you've proven that wordsmithery is genetic :hihi: i do learn some facts from the roadshow furniture guys in terms of history and prices of stuff, but i bust a gut when they get all hoity-toity about woodworking techniques when it's obvious they have only read the how-to & never actually did the work. i've got a little tube of wood-filler. it's light in color, but as i plan to paint it not stain it, i'm not concerned that it doesn't match. This reminds me... I did re-stain part of a coffee table once. The results were, as i am vaguely recollecting, not too great—probably about "good enough for government work" on our new woodworking quality scale. I should probably fill in details... My brother's puppy chewed the corner of his coffee table. It was a pottery barn table so it already had a worn look with sanded edges and whatnot. I sanded down the corner removing the teeth marks and stained it multiple times getting it successively darker until it... well, it sort of matched. He still has the table. I guess I could get a pic next time I'm there. any road, I think a break or crack is definitely a different ball of wax. It makes sense that paint would be the way to go if there isn't a large surface area needing redone. :phones: ~modest Quote
Turtle Posted September 30, 2009 Author Report Posted September 30, 2009 ...My brother's puppy chewed the corner of his coffee table. It was a pottery barn table so it already had a worn look with sanded edges and whatnot. I sanded down the corner removing the teeth marks and stained it multiple times getting it successively darker until it... well, it sort of matched. He still has the table. I guess I could get a pic next time I'm there. any road, I think a break or crack is definitely a different ball of wax. It makes sense that paint would be the way to go if there isn't a large surface area needing redone. :hihi: ~modest roger pics. :phones: i'll put up more shots too of the leg repair as i move along. was just thinking one of my favorite aphorisms to give up as comentary on my work is "good enough for who it's for". :eek: :lol: not sure where i got that one but i would even use it on customers that i thought needed a good yank on they chains. :hihi: i went & dug out that tube of filler and now honestly don't remember where or when i got it or what i used it on. guess i was doing good just to know to look for a tube & not a can. :doh: any route, turns out it's a water based product and not the petroleum based wood-dough i was thinking it was & most accustomed to using. it's got some elaborate destructions written on there, & the spout is clogged with dryed filler, but the bulk of it still feels workable when squeezing the tube so i'll just have to experiment. obviously i'm not afraid to make mistakes. :doh: :hyper: Quote
Turtle Posted September 30, 2009 Author Report Posted September 30, 2009 the product instructs to fill "large" voids in stages so i dobbed in the first dollop after shooting this photo. more time to hurry up & wait now. notice the forensic equine evidence where the stain line went into an open crack at manufacture. :) . . . . . :) Quote
modest Posted September 30, 2009 Report Posted September 30, 2009 Let us sit upon the ground and tell sad stories of the death of... uh... chairs... :) Looking good, T. I think the dark color will help with the cosmetics. ~modest Quote
Turtle Posted October 1, 2009 Author Report Posted October 1, 2009 Let us sit upon the ground and tell sad stories of the death of... uh... chairs... :) Looking good, T. I think the dark color will help with the cosmetics. ~modest roger dark aid. i'd say there is as much paint as stain in the finish as it is. giddyup! now nay; a story of the death of some independent actions i say. :lol: i meant to tell it earlier in response to your porch swing, but my reply there was already in exceedance of my usual post length. i intended to start with the start of the story, but reading on where i found it writ, i found a better start in the middle & one which i had never heard tolden in the stories of entrainment that i had heard tolden afore. here we go thens: >> :) ...In the study of chronobiology, entrainment occurs when rhythmic physiological or behavioral events match their period to an environmental oscillation (termed a zeitgeber, which is German for "timegiver"). The activity/rest (sleep) cycle is only one set of such events that is normally entrained by environmental cues whose period is ultimately determined by the earth's rotation. The term entrainment is justified because the biological rhythms are endogenous: they persist when the organism is isolated from periodic environmental cues. Circadian oscillations occur even in isolated organs, and it is believed that a master pacemaker in the mammalian brain, the SCN (suprachiasmatic nuclei), entrains the periphery. Such hierarchical relationships are not the only ones possible: two or more oscillators may couple in order to assume the same period without either being dominant over the other(s). This situation is analogous to Huygens' pendulum clocks. ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrainment_(physics) Quote
modest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Posted October 1, 2009 Yes! Entrainment, that's exactly what happened to the rocking chairs. :) Bloody brilliant! :) ~modest Quote
Turtle Posted October 1, 2009 Author Report Posted October 1, 2009 Yes! Entrainment, that's exactly what happened to the rocking chairs. :lol: Bloody brilliant! ~modest :) like i keep saying that my friend roger thelonious keeps saying; nothing is not connected. . . . . . :) Quote
Turtle Posted December 3, 2009 Author Report Posted December 3, 2009 'tis the season for tannenbaum ornament machen. :Alien: i'm on about weihnachtsgurke. :Alien: anyway, back in post #130 i have a vid of some pacific yew flats i split out and i'm using them for meine weihnachtsgurkenenen machen. decoration is gessoed tissue paper & the gurken in the photo has one layer so far. got to looking at my coping saw, a veteran of some 80 years, and found a cryptic mark. no manufacturer name but something about a patent and letters F.P.M. . found an advert from '30 for an Atkins saw with that set of letters, but i can't zoom in on the ad to see what they mean by it. :confused: Free Pivoting Mechanism? Full Pivoting Model? Falsely Placed Monogram? :doh: :hyper: 1930 Atkins Web Frames Coping Saws antique Tool Ad - eBay (item 390028442467 end time Dec-29-09 13:44:37 PST) Quote
Turtle Posted December 9, 2009 Author Report Posted December 9, 2009 my third, & final, weihnachtsgurke complete. since i found it a couple years back, Mod Podge has become my standard finish, and sometimes glue, for many of my crafty wood projects. i highly recommend it! :shrug: Mod Podge, Glue & Decoupage Products from Plaid EnterprisesFor over 40 years, crafters have used Mod Podge® for their most treasured creations. This amazing all-in-one glue, sealer and finish has come along way since its invention in the 1960s and has become a true favorite among crafters of every style and skill level for its versatility, dependability and value. It’s a glue to adhere paper, fabric and other porous materials to almost any surface, it holds tight and dries clear. It’s a sealer that protects decoupage, acrylic paint, stain, fabric and more! It’s a finish that is durable, smooth and fast-drying! Non-toxic with a simple soap and water clean up makes it great for kid's crafts, too. Choose from a variety of formulas and finishes to suit your next Mod Podge project. Quote
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