Dharma Bum

[Queso]

So let's just say, hypothetically, that I'm leaving the main land and heading over to Maui with nothing but my soul.

 

What advice would you give me? (Survival-wise)

I want advice from every member I've interacted here @ Hypography please!

 

I'm not really going to, yet. I definitely will someday when I am more equipped in the skilled art of LIVING.

 

I'd just like to gather your information. Thanks! :doh:

[freeztar]

To get there, I'd say start teaching your soul how to swim. :D

 

Seriously though, you will want some money. Actually lots of money.

Once you are there you could probably get by with nothing by eating fruit and the occasional trapped mammal.

You would need to learn your Hawaii plants and have basic primitive skills such as fire building, shelter building, and obtaining clean water. It's not as easy as it sounds. :doh:

[Queso]

I know. It is very hard.

Thank you. I really want to do it someday, probably not anytime soon.

But I figure I'll start learning right now always have been always will until we sing rot

[GAHD]

Hich hike across the country; you'll find plenty of other transients to learn from. Really something like that is the only way to prepare yourself, if you survive it.

[freeztar]

Hich hike across the country; you'll find plenty of other transients to learn from. Really something like that is the only way to prepare yourself, if you survive it.

 

That's good advice in a certain context, but I get the impression that Orb meant living on Maui and not traveling around (transient).

On a side note, it's sad how hitchhikers have become a dying breed.

 

@Orb

If you want some inspiration, then I highly, HIGHLY, recommend you check out Tom Brown Jr.'s books. Here's some suggestions:

Field Guide to Wilderness Survival (I got this book when I was 16. It is the de facto guide for living with the earth, and surviving)

Vision http://www.amazon.com/Vision-Tom-Brown/dp/042512911X

"There is a world beyond that of our everyday physical, mental, and emotional experiences. It is a world beyond the five senses, and different than the realm of the imagination. It is the world of the unseen and eternal, the world of spirit and vision.....Part of what this book is about is breaking down the complications and the inaccurate misconceptions that modern man has of the spiritual world."

Grandfather http://www.amazon.com/Grandfather-Tom-Brown/dp/042518174X/ref=pd_sim_b_2_img/103-3390036-8371060 (this book is AMAZING)

From the Introduction: "Grandfather was an anachronism. He did not belong in the space and time that I knew him. His wisdom does not fit into modern society but is the call to wilder times and palces where all things are real.....His world was that of nature and eternity."

 

From Chapter 1: "As I see it, Grandfather had just three missions in life. His first mission was to try to learn, preserve, and pass down as many of the old skills of survival, tracking, and awareness as possible, and to do so by living with the earth with as little as he could.....His second quest in life was to preserve the ancient spiritual wisdom, not only of his people, but anyone who lived close to the earth....His final quest was to learn all that he could from every philosophy and religion."

 

:) ;) :cup:

[Buffy]

You do realize that Maui is virtually all developed and its really got nothing for folks with no money: the poor folk there are all at least related to someone who's got a job. You *could* get by if you were a really good grifter, but something tells me you wouldn't want to do that for a living.

 

If you really want to do Hawaii, Oahu is urban and has a "transient" population, and so does the Big Island, but mostly on the totally sucky and wet Hilo side. Kauai has lots of rain forest, but you'd better be more skilled than the best Survivor contestant if you want to survive...

 

The other places in the world that are tropical but hospitable to getting by on one's wits are getting into Gahd's use of the word "survival" in its most human usage: these places can be dangerous for transients because there's always someone who wants to steal everything you have, so they can survive.

 

It can be a mean world out there. I'd save pennies first and at least have a way to pay to keep moving and get an occasional nights sleep in a hostel. I'm not telling you not to do it, just realize that you can't just walk out the door unprepared...

 

Some people do go both ways,

Buffy

[Boerseun]

Dharma bum? Heck - I thought this thread was about the inherent dangers of too hot curry recipes! I mean, I've had Delhi Belly before, but never Dharma Bum!

[freeztar]

Dharma bum? Heck - I thought this thread was about the inherent dangers of too hot curry recipes! I mean, I've had Delhi Belly before, but never Dharma Bum! :doh:

 

:)

[TheFaithfulStone]

I did that for a couple of weeks once.

 

Once you GET to Hawai'i, it's not actually that expensive, and there's quite a bit of the backpacking college kid scene there.

 

There are also some really dangerous people. Especially on Oahu, which is basically all city or army base. The Big Island is probably the most rural, but the leeward side is harsh environment. You wanna be GOOD at living on the land out there. And you'll probably run into some of the folks who've 'gone native' and live out in the lava tubes. Again, it can be pretty dangerous.

 

The island most amenable to bumming around is probably Kaua'i. You can camp in the parks if you're careful, and there's lots of nice people. If you're a man and a half, you could pretty easily survive in Waimea Canyon or on Na Pali. Hope you like chicken.

 

On the other hand, I did meet a guy who got the CRAP beat out of him by some Samoan meth-heads at Hanalei.

 

There's a big problem with meth all over Hawai'i, so BE CAREFUL. You can live on the cheap there, but like everywhere, if you're outside of society, the rules of society tend not to apply.

 

TFS

[Queso]

thank yous.

visited Maui as a child. I've been in love...

I saw lots of jungle there I wished I never could leave.

As for Somoan meth heads...that's pretty scary.

I'll keep that in mind (knife...check)

 

I'm sure when I actually do do this in the far future, I won't stay in one place. I'll probably check out all of the islands.

 

dreaming,

[Boerseun]

If you wanna do the survival thing, try Kergeulen.

 

There's cormorants, a few cabbages, a penguin or two and a couple of Frenchmen. It takes serious cohones to live off the land there. Too many McDonalds' in Hawaii - there's no challenge. Although you might die of trans fat poisoning if the Samoan meth heads don't kill you.

[Queso]

doesn't sound fun to me.

[TheFaithfulStone]

Too many McDonalds' in Hawai

 

Yeah, but they serve poi. Eating that stuff makes it a challenge to suppress your gag reflex.

 

TFS

[Mercedes Benzene]

Yeah, but they serve poi. Eating that stuff makes it a challenge to suppress your gag reflex.

 

Hey! I love the stuff.

Mmmmm. and Lau Lau.

[Racoon]

Yeah, but they serve poi. Eating that stuff makes it a challenge to suppress your gag reflex.

 

TFS

 

And in Hawaii, Spam is considered a 'delicacy' :doh:

 

Orby, you'll just be another unwanted "Howlie" there.

 

I still think you should hike the Cascades from Canada to California first. :)

 

If I was gonna' move to a tropical island, it would be New Zealand.

They speak English, its beautiful, the economy is good, and the people are really nice.

[Boerseun]

If I was gonna' move to a tropical island, it would be New Zealand.

They speak English, its beautiful, the economy is good, and the people are really nice.

I agree on NZ's virtues, but for the 'tropical' bit! Wellington, the South Island capital, is actually the southernmost capital in the world!

[ughaibu]

The Phoenix Islands of Kiribati are almost completely uninhabited. Protein doesn't seem to be a problem as there are so many birds and crabs. Vegetables are restricted as the soil is very poor, the main source of vitamin A is an almost inedibly spicy fruit. The water's not very good but you could rig up one of Turtle's contraptions to reclaim sea water. The main problems are getting there and that US citizens only get a one month visa.