CraigD Posted July 28, 2007 Report Posted July 28, 2007 Nuclei are what the word implies. Neutralised components of the primary particles like the electrons and the protons plus the neutrons. Nuclei are considered to be neutral.I suspect you misspeak, confusing “nuclei” for some other term. The word “nuclei”, singular “nucleus” implies the center of something - Etymologically, it’s related to the word “nut”. It’s unrelated to the word “neutral”, which shares its roots with the word “neuter”, literally meaning from in the latin “ne” (not) “uter” (either of two). (source Online Etymology Dictionary page “neutral” and ”neuter”) In atomic theory, it’s the compact collection of nucleons at the center of the atom that constitutes most of its mass. The charge of a nucleus of a particular element is positive and equal to its atomic number – no nucleus can be electrically neutral, unless one considers (as some do) hypothetical degenerate matter such as neutronium to constitute a sort of single unusual atomic nucleus.They would not, in themselves, contribute to the explosion as a force but only as a supply of 'charged' particles. So the only component to cause such an explosion is the coulomb force contained in the charged particles. It was the strong force that contained the charged particles as 'potential energy and the high velocity particles used to 'fracture' the nuclei beyond the range of the SF that was the 'cause' of the fissions (explosion). This is basic physics as I see it.Can you support your claim for this “basic physics as you see it” with references to anything other than you own opinion? Quote
Mike C Posted July 30, 2007 Author Report Posted July 30, 2007 I suspect you misspeak, confusing “nuclei” for some other term. Well yes, I used the word nuclei instead of 'elements'. But when you think about it, even the elements have a slight attraction to create the 'force of gravity'. Can you support your claim for this “basic physics as you see it” with references to anything other than you own opinion? I quoted previously that the coulomb force is attractive as well as repulsive. This principle is in every physics book.There is no other nuclear principle that I can think of that would cause such an explosion. Can you supply another? NS Quote
Qfwfq Posted July 30, 2007 Report Posted July 30, 2007 So the only component to cause such an explosion is the coulomb force contained in the charged particles. It was the strong force that contained the charged particles as 'potential energy and the high velocity particles used to 'fracture' the nuclei beyond the range of the SF that was the 'cause' of the fissions (explosion).How do you explain fusion of light nuclei being exothermic and not endothermic, then? You'll need to explain all that energy released in H-bombs that have been tested, not to mention stars. Even tokamaks have reached breakeven in the lab. This is basic physics as I see it.As you see it. IOW it is an unsupported claim. Quote
Zythryn Posted July 30, 2007 Report Posted July 30, 2007 ...There is no other nuclear principle that I can think of that would cause such an explosion.NS Your lack of knowledge does not place constraints on reality.E=MC^2 describes the energy released and the loss of matter quite nicely. Quote
Mike C Posted August 1, 2007 Author Report Posted August 1, 2007 How do you explain fusion of light nuclei being exothermic and not endothermic, then? You'll need to explain all that energy released in H-bombs that have been tested, not to mention stars. Even tokamaks have reached breakeven in the lab. As you see it. IOW it is an unsupported claim. First of all, you should understand that I rely on 'visualization' as my main source of knowledge.Math is just a language used for predicting (prophets?) future events. An exception could be Plancks Quantum math that resolved the 'nature of light'. However, there is a saying that 'a picture is worth a thousand words' All the current telescopes are really 'technical visualizations' that are by far more informative than any math formulas. Regarding the fusion of hydrogen into helium in the central regions of stars, the fusion process here is not the generator of the light, but instead is just a byproduct of the central 'condensed' evironment in the stars. The real source of the light pulses is the very high electron velocities in the central plasma where the electrons attain very high velocities. There, they bypass the protons in hyperbolic (open) orbital passages to create powerful magnetic pulses that generate the photons. These plasma pulses have a 'sign' wave pattern, rather than the closed matter orbitals that generate 'black body' pulsations. . . ..These sign wave pulsations radiate to the surface to exit as BB pulses. The fusion process as a byproduct of this condensed central environment, results from the entrapment of an electron between two fast spinning protons that acquire high spin velocities resulting from the electron passages to give them strong magnetic fields. These protons will align themselves to attract along their polar axis. And with an electron trapped between two such protons will bind to form a deuteron. The combination of the electrons coulomb attraction and the proton magnetic spin fields, act as the strong force. The alignment of two protons with the electron between them acts as a 'bar magnet' that automatically clamp together to form the helium nucleus. So this fusion process is as I said, a byproduct of the interaction of the forces that surround them in this condensed environment.Evidence for this deuteron binding is that there is a lack of 'atomic mass number' (AMN) 5. A 5th proton attached to this combination would destabilize the 'magnetic field pattern' and would be cast off.This is also true for AMN 8. A binding between two helium nuclei would require an electron attached to the sides of the deuteron protons at their equators. This cannot happen. The hydrogen bomb is another matter where the hydrogen atoms are separated to create independant charged particles that are accelerated to high velocities by the fission explosion to add more magnetic radiation resulting from their high velocities that adds to the intensity of the explosion. NS Quote
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