Visionary Social Anatomy

[TheFaithfulStone]

Yes, even that one. Choas is the nature of existance, reality is paradoxal.

 

What about those? MUHAHAHAHAHAHA....

 

TFS

[InfiniteNow]

I think the "Broad case" misunderstanding is on your part, and not mine.

 

And it is exactically here, my friend, that you are wrong.

[TZK]

No it isn't.

 

Race is a typology which is socially constructed by the dominant group. This means that people who are in charge look around and find out what they have in common. Then they divide other people into two kinds of people - groups that ARE like them, and people that ARE NOT like them.

 

After they've done this this, they start comparing the two groups and looking for differences and similarities. They are going to find some. There is really no telling what they will find, but there will be SOME differences which are correlated to the division. However - they have already decided what the independent variable should be.

 

Then, hopefully (for them), they find that some attribute they value is associated with people like them (shocking, right?) and that some attribute they don't like is associated with people not like them. They say that this difference in attributes MUST be attributable to the variable that they already decided the difference was attributable too.

 

In other words the entire question of race is a correlation/causation fallacy based on a faulty assumption and an affirmed consequent. That's a lot of bad thinking to base any decision on.

 

TFS

 

I disagree - you are referencing a moral issue not a rational one. No one said that the correlation equals causation. That is irrelevant. If I am a hiring manager, and a certain race is correlated with poor job performance, and in the unlikely situation that this is the best information I have to go on and the statistics were unbiased, I couldn't care less about whether or not the race caused the poor job performance. All that matters is that if you hire that person you have a (for example) 66% chance of losing money or you do lose x money when the policy is considered over the whole company.

 

Now if I was the hiring manager and I could simply change something that would alter the correlation between the race and the job performance at no cost (or less than the cost of a reduced labor pool) that would be different. (IE Stop referring to them as racial slurs at work and they become equally productive as any other racial group) But that is typically not the case.

 

An understanding of statistics teaches you that any correlation at all gives any grouping significance. True race is designated according to seemingly arbitrary visual criteria. But if there was no difference other than skin color there would BE NO correlations.