Inter.spem.et.metum Posted October 29, 2007 Report Posted October 29, 2007 Do you consider a new life on this planet as a threat to the people living now? Quote
Buffy Posted October 29, 2007 Report Posted October 29, 2007 If it was an Islamofascist, probably... YouTube - TPMtv: Wingnut Losers Unite! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYtB5oLiSt4 Ah, I love the smell of troll bait in the morning, Buffy Quote
Inter.spem.et.metum Posted October 30, 2007 Author Report Posted October 30, 2007 Any life. This idea is constant conveyed by many people everywhere, including this forum. The assumption is that new life on this world creates a possible problem and a definite conflict with something on this planet. Quote
Queso Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 Well that would explain why LSD is illegal. Quote
Buffy Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 Any life.You should listen to what the responses above *say*: some would be good, some would be bad. Unfortunately you seem to be trying to make this a black and white issue:This idea is constant conveyed by many people everywhere, including this forum. The assumption is that new life on this world creates a possible problem and a definite conflict with something on this planet.Thus, this is troll-bait: you're trying to get people to take one side or another which will result in an endless stream of "you're a heartless murderer!" "No, you're a naive Commie!" This does nothing but cause useless conflict for the amusement of the trolling party. You may wish to rephrase your question. Words -- so innocent and powerless as they are, as standing in a dictionary, how potent for good and evil they become in the hands of one who knows how to combine them, :phones:Buffy Quote
Inter.spem.et.metum Posted October 30, 2007 Author Report Posted October 30, 2007 Absolutely. I am trying to make it a black and white issue. Only when you boil down an issue to its raw essence can you truly understand it. I am well aware of the ability to pull all things into a grey area. I am well aware of the debate that this question suggests, and that is my purpose. The more life there is on this planet, the more potential human beings will have. Overpopulation would have to be addressed, of course. But, with all the resources spent to kill life being used in alternate methods of creating and protecting life, the possibilities are endless. There is no logic in trying to end death, the logic lies in trying to use what we have properly. Quote
Buffy Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 Oh! Okay! Then, no! Those who seek simplistic answers will get them... :phones:Buffy Quote
Inter.spem.et.metum Posted October 30, 2007 Author Report Posted October 30, 2007 :phones::evil:Then why do you support abortion?:evil::evil: (Don't get mad;)) Quote
Buffy Posted October 30, 2007 Report Posted October 30, 2007 :evil::evil:Then why do you support abortion?:evil::evil:Its not "new life!"(Don't get mad;))Gee we *know* you're being a troll here! You don't actually have to *say* it! :phones: I admire you're strong stand against all medical technology that would be used to eliminate viruses, bacteria, in any numbers whatsoever! Put down that soap young man! You'll kill more germs than Stalin killed people in 60 seconds! :hihi:Buffy Quote
Inter.spem.et.metum Posted November 1, 2007 Author Report Posted November 1, 2007 It is a possible life. You don't get to make that judgment for everyone. Quote
Buffy Posted November 1, 2007 Report Posted November 1, 2007 It is a possible life.Those bacteria are *actual* life then. You don't seem to care about them.You don't get to make that judgment for everyone.You neither! Fortunately! :evil: I am certain there is too much certainty in the world, Buffy Quote
Queso Posted November 1, 2007 Report Posted November 1, 2007 When I see this threadI think about people who look at life as sacred, and government as absurd.I think about how a lot of people of my generation take a step back before they go forward.Back into survivalism, tribalism, the roots of consciousness.This is what i think about when I think"Is new life a threat to existing life?"And I think about the new life that I amwhich is the old lifeintegrating with the new life.There is a lot of dumb people that nature will kill off. (evolution)This is also what this thread makes me think about. Quote
Buffy Posted November 1, 2007 Report Posted November 1, 2007 When I see this threadI think about people who look at life as sacred, and government as absurd.I think about how a lot of people of my generation take a step back before they go forward....This is also what this thread makes me think about.Amen, Orby. The point is it makes you *think* because its not obvious. The notion that life is simply defined and that there are nothing but simple solutions to life's conundrums is a *threat* to life! :eek: I always like to look on the optimistic side of life, but I am realistic enough to know that life is a complex matter, :phones:Buffy Quote
Boerseun Posted November 1, 2007 Report Posted November 1, 2007 If you mean "new life" as in a spontaneously created new instance of life in some muddy pool somewhere, synthesizing all necessary compounds and amino acids together to make a new life from, analogous to the initial creation of life back in the day, then no: Sadly this is impossible. When Life originated in some muddy pool, there was nothing to eat it. If any form of new life was created today, it will promptly be eaten by some form of already established life. It's not to say that it's not happening, though - merely that it won't go far. Also, initial life didn't have to deal with oxygen, which tends to break organic molecules apart. Oxygen in our atmosphere is a byproduct of life, not vise versa - however counterintuitive that might sound, and the abundance thereof kinda makes it impossible for life to originate in the same way as it had, billions of years ago. If, on the other hand, you're saying "new life" meaning newborns of established species, then, no. That also won't be a danger to any given species, because that's the principal way of carrying on the species into the future. Also the only way, if you discount cell splitting amongst bacteria, for example. If you're implying "new life" to include more births than deaths, then a population bloom is expected, with the sudden population crash that inevitably must follow it once all resources are used up. And this isn't necessarily a bad thing, either. It's merely another filter used by evolution to weed and trim those who cannot live in harmony with the environment and resource levels. So, first off, I don't really get your question, and secondly, new life ain't bad at all. Quote
maikeru Posted November 1, 2007 Report Posted November 1, 2007 Do you consider a new life on this planet as a threat to the people living now? Silicon life and Artificial Intelligences are sure to eclipse our own species in the near future. Nanobots constructing and deconstructing the known into the unknown at the nanoscale. Mechanical monstrosities hunting down rogue humans without mercy. Land, water, and sky destined to become a pile of grey goo. Make way for the machines and our new overlords. There is no escape. :eek_big: Quote
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