Worship and Nature

[theblackalchemist]

In this treacherous world, some people stand by God and some Against him,others choose a definition to them as they fit,

 

Some people say that they are absolute devotees of God and some say they are staunch atheists,

 

Some spend day and night lost in the thought of God,experiencing eternal bliss,

Some, the hands of toil they kiss

 

there are many stories of God influencing some lives strongly,

Others just ignore those blindly,

 

Some say that God doesn't exist,

Some say they don't worship.

 

But those who do, what do they worship?

a shroud of Turin, the Holy Mecca?,Some Holy Parchments or Books, Or stone idols?

 

Isn't Nature the one thing that we Worship?

For indirectly or Directly, it amounts to it!

 

TBA

 

Pls. note that the posts below contain a apparent mixture of many ideas that account to one main thing.

i have expressed one idea per post

thanks

TBA

[theblackalchemist]

The stuff above relates to the worshipping of the five elements ( as per Hindu Mythology) - Fire, Water, Wind, Earth, Ether.

We say that we worship God, but aren't we worshipping nature also in the process of worshipping God?

We say that God created the Earth, But isn,t God also susceptible to atleast a few laws of Nature?

[theblackalchemist]

And from an unbiased point of view,

Nature was created which inturn created us- Humans.

If humans didn't exist than would God have been there?

That is If nature didn't exist, would God have been realized?(i think not)

 

So this leads to another question,

is God A creation of Man? or is it Vice-Versa?

 

I am hopelessly confused!:hihi::)

TBA

[InfiniteNow]

Fruitful conversation you seem to be having with yourself. Worship is for followers. It's time for more leaders.

[Queso]

I worship Kali when I'm lucky enough to.

[theblackalchemist]

You say that the world needs leaders, but isn't the world already being led by someone?

the ever revealing bible code is an well known witness to the fact that the world already has a leader, leading us to a certain apocalypse or a hair line miss to doomsday?;)

the world may need a leader...

either one who will bring upon mass destruction and relive us of pain and misery permanently by making us join the world we were worshipping?

or

he will bring upon a beneficial change to mankind

by

bringing upon us a drastic evolutionary change,

or by

bringing out a brainwave that would save the world and change it from an approaching end

or by

seeking out an another earth

TBA

[theblackalchemist]

It is argued that in many temples of south India and even in the Holy Bible that the long Past generation met with their future generation yet to come..

so you may say that the world still exists.... but how?

will the earth be barren or will it be full of life?

or the apocalypse has been postponed?

 

when we worship nature, are we also keeping something as remanants to worship onto?

i.e. when we worship nature do we decimate nature while worshipping it?

TBA

 

P.S - the south indian temple part-- i have seen it myself, there are people in the ancient age old inscriptions who look like they wear a space suit kinda thing, and just next to it is a premature/advanced ( dont know, since it is not this gen's model) of a apparent telescope.

i think i have photographed them, let me see...

TBA

[Mike C]

In this treacherous world, some people stand by God and some Against him,others choose a definition to them as they fit,

 

Some people say that they are absolute devotees of God and some say they are staunch atheists,

 

Some spend day and night lost in the thought of God,experiencing eternal bliss,

Some, the hands of toil they kiss

 

there are many stories of God influencing some lives strongly,

Others just ignore those blindly,

 

Some say that God doesn't exist,

Some say they don't worship.

 

But those who do, what do they worship?

a shroud of Turin, the Holy Mecca?,Some Holy Parchments or Books, Or stone idols?

 

Isn't Nature the one thing that we Worship?

For indirectly or Directly, it amounts to it!

 

TBA

 

Pls. note that the posts below contain a apparent mixture of many ideas that account to one main thing.

i have expressed one idea per post

thanks

TBA

 

The dominating biblical religion that promotes a 'one god concept' with the chauvinistic lion being portrayed as the Sun god is the major problem with the biblical version.

 

On the other hand, the Moon's fetal image that represents the women as Creator Gods is being downgraded as inferior to the Sun god.

 

The portrayal of woman as 'sinners' is a gross lie that does them an injustice.

 

So the lion that represents death as a killer god is the accepted norm and of course, weapons rule.

Another thing that promotes the sun god is the color of gold. This remarkable metal is untarnishable and promotes the idea of 'everlasting' life because it simply does not oxidize as the other metals do. So it represents capitalism since it was the original medium of exhange in trading goods and admired by the ancient Egyptians.

Dollars have recently replaced gold as the medium of exchange.

 

So now we have 'rule' by guns/cannons and dollars as governing our lives.

 

However, Islam has established itself as god also and attacked the guns and dollars rulers with its 9/11 attack.

So now we have two gods trying to establish themselves as who is the 'one god concept' that the bible promotes.

Looks like this is going ro be a 'long' war.

 

Mike C

[theblackalchemist]

There are so many people in this world..who believe that their God is superior and they are still sulking in that dark canopy which barricades them from experiencing paradise

the sun God being portrayed as a lion, is probably another witness to the fact that we also worship nature indirectly..

take for example the norse,egyptian,greek,indian-(complete) mythology,

all gods control some or the other element, or a form in which the elements manifest itself..

it is very evident that in many parts of the world in ancient times..women have been considered lowly, for many reasons.

according to the moon and the sun philosophy-the sun is way brighter than the moon may be the cause of this social division..

:)

TBA

also the long war which you were referring to..it has been predicted by the bible code,nostradamus,etc..that a third anti-christ will arise that would lead to a long war in which the world will be burnt(probably by a nuclear weapon)

TBA

[Queso]

look at it this way.

back in the day people saw the universe differently than we do these days.

in the future, people aren't even going to people.

This boils down to the fact that a lot of people are just dumb monkeys.

Truth has it's ways of spreading.

Truth adapts, too.

So just accept that the mysterious brain, individuality, feelings, memories, and black holes fly around the inside of your skull.

[Mike C]

look at it this way.

back in the day people saw the universe differently than we do these days.

in the future, people aren't even going to people.

This boils down to the fact that a lot of people are just dumb monkeys.

Truth has it's ways of spreading.

Truth adapts, too.

So just accept that the mysterious brain, individuality, feelings, memories, and black holes fly around the inside of your skull.

 

That is the trouble with most people that use the monkies as scapegoats for all problems.

 

Fangs and claws (FaCs) can only kill, so their capabilities are restricted to just that.

On the other hand, the monkies and more specifically, the apes, are the real sources of this material' wealth that FaCs crave and use because only 'Hands' create the real tangible wealth.

 

Of course, FaCs' cannot create so they have to use the 'hands' to do that for them.

The thing that bothers me is the war the FaCs wage against the 'hands' to reduce them to just a commodity.

 

Get real, brains do not create anything tangible. Greed and ideas are confined only to the chauvinistic brains.

 

Mike C

[HydrogenBond]

If you had 1000 people in a large room, if there were no rules and no laws, the strongest and toughest person would always be right. To evolve, we set the rule that anything goes, except violence. At that point, the people with the loudest voices, who can talk without appearing to breath would be right. They are the only voice that is speaking. If we wanted to get even more civilized, we offer a time limit so anyone can have a voice. The lairs and con artists, who could embellish reality would be right, since they can always do one better, being free to lie. If we now set the rule of no down-right lying, then those who are most charming would be right. If we decide, we need more than charm, that those who are the most entertaining would be right. If entertainment is not enough, then the educators would be right. If we decided education is good, but we now need even more than that, then the thinkers would be right. If all that thinking is not leading to closure, then the wiseman is right.

 

With everything settled, people get bored, so they go backwards. The thinkers come up with the idea of relative truth. This makes the wiseman useless ,since his truth is now relative. The educators begin to diverge and take the place of the thinkers, since thinking is only relative. Within the confusion of education, people seek entertainment. Among those they then seek the people who are the most charming to lead. If all it takes is charm, the liars and the cons artist are back in business. To stand out from the croud, the best liar needs to talk louder-nonstop. This gets on the nerves of the tough man, who decides it was easier when he ruled. But that leads to nowwhere, so loud voices begin to speak.......

[cotner]

On my part I don't worship God, but I respect Him and give Him credit where he does all right; otherwise I criticize Him, and tell him as from one person aspiring to intelligence to another who is supposed to be intelligent to the nth degree, to do better.

 

Worship is too servile, to bootlick-some; it is the groveling drill of idolaters.

 

 

The God I respect is not an idol, and definitely not possessed of an idol's psychology.

 

 

Laugh.

 

 

 

cotner

[Mike C]

On my part I don't worship God, but I respect Him and give Him credit where he does all right; otherwise I criticize Him, and tell him as from one person aspiring to intelligence to another who is supposed to be intelligent to the nth degree, to do better.

 

Worship is too servile, to bootlick-some; it is the groveling drill of idolaters.

 

 

The God I respect is not an idol, and definitely not possessed of an idol's psychology.

 

 

Laugh.

 

 

 

cotner

 

If you read my post on Nature as GOD, you would see my opinion on this subject.

 

I also have an opinion on the bible and it is a total lie with all evil concepts.

The only truth it teaches is that a 'spirit' exists and that, I myself believe is true. But it is an EVIL spirit and the source of our major problems in life because of the 'one god concept' in the 1st 3 commandments that promote 'chauvinism.

 

Mike C