How can we reason empathetically?

[coberst]

How can we reason empathetically?

 

Empathy—the imaginative projection of a subjective state into an object so that the object appears to be infused with it. I can be empathetic with my neighbor by using my imagination to “walk a mile in the shoes” of my neighbor.

 

Most all of my formal education, I suspect your own also, has been didactic in nature. Didactic education is a method of “teaching by telling” and rote memorization.

 

My engineering education and most all college level education is didactic. Most college education is designed to train an individual to perform a very specific task. The engineer, accountant, doctor, etc is told what is the logic of performance for a particular profession. After years of this indoctrination the graduate is prepared to solve the problems encountered in the particular chosen field.

 

Such training is an efficient method for utilizing the scientific method to solve problems in a prescribed frame of reference. It is the type of education designed for a productive and efficient technology. Our technological accomplishments are proof of this. It is not, however, the type of education that prepares the individual for most of the problems encountered by society or self.

 

Most important issues are not simply matters of fact, nor are they essentially matters of faith, taste, or preferences. They are matters that call for reasoned reflection and sound judgments. They are problems that can be considered from differing perspectives, from different frames of reference. Often a values issue requires at least two perspectives: is it good morality and is it good economics.

 

How does one structure thinking to produce reasoned reflection and sound judgment in those matters that make up most of life’s multifaceted concerns?

 

Governor Elect Arnold S. must develop a budget for the state of California very quickly. Let us imagine the sessions that he holds with his advisors leading up to the finished budget.

 

Arnold holds his first meeting with six advisors each with a different expertise; each a strong advocate for a very important aspect of the welfare of the state.

 

Arnold starts off with the first advisor on his left who strongly suggests budget A is the best for the state. Going clockwise around the table the next advisor recognizing important aspects of the suggestion of the first advisor presents budget B as the better budget. Budget B contains aspects of budget A but also carries strong suggestions in accord with the second advisor’s area of expertise.

 

Each advisor in turn synthesizes the budget proposed by others, adding his articles of improvement. At the end of the first session there is a first draft of a budget. Each succeeding session synthesizes the previous results with new inputs until finally a budget of compromises is developed.

 

What we see in this imagined budget planning effort is a dialogical interchange encompassed within a dialectical process to produce a result. The dialogue is each advisor placing their argument before the group. The dialectic is the synthesizing of a particular proposal with another input thus creating a new proposal, which in turn is subjected to a continuing repetition. Proposal A is synthesized with proposal B producing proposal C and C is then synthesized with D to produce E etc.

 

The dialogical-dialectical process for each of us cannot contain all the participants that Arnold has for the state budget. When each Californian decides what the budget should be that individual must, in most cases, internalize the activities.

 

One can, by reading the papers, discover various opinions that others might have regarding the matter. However, it is up to the individual, in the solitude of her intellect, to provide the various actors. The enlightened citizen must create the multifaceted argument internally. The individual must empathetically create the dialogue and the dialectic within her own mind.

 

Imagine the number of “frames of reference” one would bring to bear on the issue of the comatose woman in Florida. If one becomes conscious of this issue and brings his/her intellect to bear on this issue s/he might be surprised by the possible ways to analyze this matter. One frame of reference we might not have thought about. That, of course, is the issue of our politicians injecting themselves, for their personal advantage, into the issue.

 

Do you have an opinion regarding the statement in bold?

[jedaisoul]

Empathy—the imaginative projection of a subjective state into an object so that the object appears to be infused with it.

Where did you get this definition of empathy from? I would suggest that empathy is precisely the opposite of this. Rather than projecting an imagined state onto an object, it is the process of opening up your mind to receive the actual state of another's thoughts and emotions.

 

The individual must empathetically create the dialogue and the dialectic within her own mind.

Empathy is between individuals. You cannot empathise with yourself!

[coberst]

Where did you get this definition of empathy from? I would suggest that empathy is precisely the opposite of this. Rather than projecting an imagined state onto an object, it is the process of opening up your mind to receive the actual state of another's thoughts and emotions.

 

 

Empathy is between individuals. You cannot empathise with yourself!

 

That definition is from Webster. Empathy is between one human and some object. That object may be another human or it might be a painting hanging on the wall.

[jedaisoul]

That definition is from Webster. Empathy is between one human and some object. That object may be another human or it might be a painting hanging on the wall.

Hi, I just checked Webster's Online, and got the following results:

"Empathy": Understanding and entering into another's feelings.

"Empathic" or "Empathetic": Showing empathy or ready comprehension of others' states.

 

I'll agree that it could be extended to include representational art, but in that case, is it not intended to mean an empathy with the artist? For example, viewing "The Scream" may give you a profound insight into Edvard Munch's feelings at the time he painted it.

 

Can you have empathy with a representation itself, particularly if it is purely fictional?

[coberst]

Hi, I just checked Webster's Online, and got the following results:

"Empathy": Understanding and entering into another's feelings.

"Empathic" or "Empathetic": Showing empathy or ready comprehension of others' states.

 

I'll agree that it could be extended to include representational art, but in that case, is it not intended to mean an empathy with the artist? For example, viewing "The Scream" may give you a profound insight into Edvard Munch's feelings at the time he painted it.

 

Can you have empathy with a representation itself, particularly if it is purely fictional?

 

 

 

Understanding is the creation of meaning. When we manage to successfully empathesize with another object we are making that object meaningful to us. We are creating a resonance with the other person or in the case of art we are creating a meaningful connection with the art.

 

I have been reading the book "Abstraction and Empathy", which is a classic in the definition of art. The author speaks of the interpretation of art as empathy and as abstraction.

 

I defiantly think it is the case that the more suffering each of us endures the more empathetic we become. That is a heavy price we pay for growing our ability to comprehend this very human ability of empathy. Some say that the artist’s ability is

[jedaisoul]

Understanding is the creation of meaning. When we manage to successfully empathesize with another object we are making that object meaningful to us. We are creating a resonance with the other person or in the case of art we are creating a meaningful connection with the art.

 

I have been reading the book "Abstraction and Empathy", which is a classic in the definition of art. The author speaks of the interpretation of art as empathy and as abstraction.

 

I defiantly think it is the case that the more suffering each of us endures the more empathetic we become. That is a heavy price we pay for growing our ability to comprehend this very human ability of empathy. Some say that the artist’s ability is

The process of projecting human characteristics or emotions on to inanimate objects (or animals) is called anthropomorphism.

 

Similarly, the process of projection animal characteristics on to inanimate objects (or humans) is called zoomorphism.

 

Both of these are projections, whereas empathy is a matter of comprehending the feelings of another person. An art critic may call the process of comprehending a work of art "empathic", but unless s/he is talking about empathy with the artist, I think it is technically anthropomorphism.