coberst Posted January 6, 2008 Author Report Posted January 6, 2008 jon I think that Freud means that we are meaning creating creatures and most of what we value are those things that are artifical that we think are so important. What do we value most--money. What can be more artificial and delusional than dollar bills. Of course we cannot recognize this because we love our delusions. Quote
Symbology Posted January 7, 2008 Report Posted January 7, 2008 jon I think that Freud means that we are meaning creating creatures and most of what we value are those things that are artifical that we think are so important. What do we value most--money. What can be more artificial and delusional than dollar bills. Of course we cannot recognize this because we love our delusions. Well just to be clear... everyone I know wants the things that come from money (house, car, education, travel, entertainment, lifestyle, discretionary time, philanthropy)... not the money itself. If we could manage to get those things without money, I expect most people would still be just as satisfied. I have met a few people in my life who value money most, but I got away from them as quickly as possible :) Sort of like the business man who counted stars in "The Little Prince" Quote
Michaelangelica Posted January 8, 2008 Report Posted January 8, 2008 . .every day the fox came a little closer"all I can remember of the little prince,- that part of the book says a lot about trust. Which is probably a necessry precursor to love. Freud said some smart things but some very stupid things too.Msalow (mid 1940s?) would talk about a "hierarchy of needs"Maslow's hierarchy of needs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaMASLOW'S HIERARCHY OF NEEDSThe first needs- food water shelter- need to be met before other needs can be obtained.Maslow has set up a hierarchy of five levels of basic needs. Beyond these needs, higher levels of needs exist. These include needs for understanding, esthetic appreciation and purely spiritual needs. In the levels of the five basic needs, the person does not feel the second need until the demands of the first have been satisfied, nor the third until the second has been satisfied, and so on. Maslow's basic needs are as follows: Maslow is getting a bit-long-in-the-tooth now. There may be other more recent explorations of this idea. Still it is an interesting model/way of looking at things.Money should be a means to an end.( as listed by Maslow). For some (Murdock?) that end is power so the need for money is insatiable. Quote
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