nutronjon Posted January 3, 2008 Report Posted January 3, 2008 nutron Heroism like beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. This morning as I put on a new pair of socks, which were a Xmass gift, I realized associating money with being a hero, works if the money, or gifts, are given. That is when we give, we feel esteem as long as we are esteemed. But money and self esteem, may not work if the person wrongly gets this wealth, or hordes wealth, or flaunts it, and otherwise does nothing of social value with it. The banker in the Christmas story of "It is a Wonderful Life." is the richest man in town, and the villian. Same as Scrooge in the "Christmas Carol" is a villian, until he turns around and uses his wealth to please others. Could we say just aquiring money for self esteem is not what makes a person a hero, but how the person uses the money can make the person a hero? Like does self esteem have a social element to it, and if we feel self important but do not have social agreement about our self importance, we might be eluded? Might those who follow a deluded person, also be deluded? Why were Ceasar, Alexander the Great, Hitler and Bush loved by the people? Hum, reality check. Quote
nutronjon Posted January 3, 2008 Report Posted January 3, 2008 Wow, coberst, you have my head exploding with questions! :eek: What is the difference between a tyrant and a hero? These forums had a problem with someone who may have been a psychopath, and I am sure this person was acting on self esteem needs, and in her way, was a hero in her own eyes. Martyars are heros right? Jesus is a hero and so are all those who martyared themselves for Christianity of Islam. You have given us real food for thought. Quote
coberst Posted January 3, 2008 Author Report Posted January 3, 2008 nutron Check out your library. The book is worth the effort to read. "Life Against Death" Norman Brown Quote
Michaelangelica Posted January 4, 2008 Report Posted January 4, 2008 nutronjon Money is, of course, our principal means for showing our hero status. The more we make the biger the self-esteem until there comes a time when that will no longer cut the mustard. Even Tony Soprano and Mike Wallace, who is the the big man on "60 minutes" had their moments of depression wherein the standard highs of capitalistic success fail to satisfy.hero status.or just status? Quote
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