Michaelangelica Posted January 28, 2008 Report Posted January 28, 2008 What about your computer? :hihi:Not allowed by the beautiful Bbut NOT the one on your computer,It adds and subtracts. Enough to work out my poverty level.What more would anyone ever need?:hihi: Quote
Buffy Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Posted January 29, 2008 Hey Buffy, so what if i have 5 calculators on my computer, that are calculators, and not word/excell or reapeats of themselves. Like i have an RPN calc on my computer, BC, stock mac calculator, calculators i have written, etc?Sorry, they don't count because they're on a general purpose computer (as opposed by the way to a PDA which does count).What if i commonly use google for calculating quick things if they are more complex then simple addition, subtraction, multiplication or division and i need precise answer, or to check myself...?No that doesn't count. And you're a nerd! :DAlso if i have 2 calculators on my phone, do both of them count?Yes! That counts as 2! And you're a nerd! lastly, do i also count calculators on my MP3 player?Yes! Didn't I mention microwave oven above? Have you ever seen one that has a calculator?how about calculating abilities of devices for which calculation was not the intended use?Yes, but geez now you've got me intrigued! Dish! :eek:both of my graphers and all other calculating devices i have and never use because i do most calculations in my head?...and that puts you in the Mr. Spock category! Also disappointed with the absence of pen/paper...Purposely left this off because that pencil and the paper is not a "mechanical or electronic device that eliminates the use of the brain to perform calculations" whereas of course, fingers (and toes!) *are* "mechanical devices" (actually arguably electronic!)... :shrug: Why old men fool and children calculate, :evil:Buffy Quote
Michaelangelica Posted January 29, 2008 Report Posted January 29, 2008 I am not a Geek.I am not a Geek. How do you get the batteries (and what type) into a Sonic Screwdriver? Quote
DFINITLYDISTRUBD Posted January 29, 2008 Report Posted January 29, 2008 Purposely left this off because that pencil and the paper is not a "mechanical or electronic device that eliminates the use of the brain to perform calculations" whereas of course, fingers (and toes!) *are* "mechanical devices" (actually arguably electronic!)... Why old men fool and children calculate, Buffy But you use your fingers (or if your really talented toes) to work them!!!:hyper:And what about "mechanical pencils"?:doh: And my pens have clickie thingsand flashing lights and are therefore mechanical and electronic..:D.what about them?!?!?! Quote
alexander Posted January 30, 2008 Report Posted January 30, 2008 Have you ever seen one that has a calculator?No i actually have not.... i'm waiting for a day when i would be able to ssh into my toaster though... i can already ssh into my phone :shrug: Yes, but geez now you've got me intrigued!regular ruler for addition, sheet of lined paper, a regular phone at work with like 6-7 rows of buttons(think of it as an abacus, without moving beads though, or if you are really sleek, a suanpan or if you have enough rows of buttons, even a soroban) speaking about calculations, how many ways do you know how to muliply 2 or 3 digit numbers manually?i know 3, interested in how many more there are out there...:standard long multiplication way - you all know it, i dont need to go over it not-so-standard shorter mental addition wayex:325*482=mental processes (write down the answer from back to front as you are doing this):5*2=10 -> last digit 0 remeber - 12*2+5*8=44+1=45 next digit 5 remember 42*3+8*2+4*5=42+4=46 next digit 6 remember 44*2+8*3=32+4=36 next digit 6 remember 33*4=12+3=15 last 2 digits... answer 156650 you can also do this visually, refer to the drawing:[img=http://hypography.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2031&stc=1&d=1201727370]http://hypography.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2031&stc=1&d=1201727370[/img] how creative do you get with your math? Quote
Michaelangelica Posted January 31, 2008 Report Posted January 31, 2008 There is away of doing sums, tables, with your fingers too.It looked like funAlthough I am not sure why you would ever need it. Quote
snoopy Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 I write calculators to suit my particular need I have 23 on my computer, 10 on my pda and 6 on my mobile phone and I have one handheld one that has a VAT (17.5%) button. Do you think thats enough ?? God Im a nerd.........sigh. Peace:) Quote
Monomer Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 Okay, let's see... I've got one on my mobile phone, a little keyring calculator, and my scientific casio calculator I've used since 1989. So I've got 3. Quote
alexander Posted February 5, 2008 Report Posted February 5, 2008 snoopy, i have a programmable rpn calculator on my phone i used to code for on my 83 a lot, i used to have hundreds of basic programs for it, and a lot of them were calculators built on top of the calculator, to so specific calculating tasks, you know such as for solving quadratic equations (it even used to do imaginary numbers) stuff like that... Quote
snoopy Posted February 6, 2008 Report Posted February 6, 2008 snoopy, i have a programmable rpn calculator on my phone :P i used to code for on my 83 a lot, i used to have hundreds of basic programs for it, and a lot of them were calculators built on top of the calculator, to so specific calculating tasks, you know such as for solving quadratic equations (it even used to do imaginary numbers) stuff like that... Ok you win You're even nerdier.... thank goodness Im not a nerd after all im normal, im normal.... :eek2: Peace:) Quote
CraigD Posted February 6, 2008 Report Posted February 6, 2008 One of my favorite PalmOS applications is the Hotpaws BASIC interpreter (though it can create true Palm apps, such apps are stubs that invoke the interpreter to process their imbedded text, so to my thinking it should be considered a pure interpreter). AFAIK, it’s the only programming language implementation worthy of the designation for PalmOS, in the sense of a programming language that can be used to write then run useful, non-trivial programs on the handheld device itself. Perfect for the sort of sad, sad people who find themselves unable to endure a day a the beach without writing a heap of code to solve some earth-shatteringly urgent problem :P The most generally useful Hotpaws BASIC program I have is one that takes the contents from the clipboard, evaluates it RPN arithmetic expression, with precision limited only by the clipboard max size (1 – 4K on various unhacked PalmOSs), and (re)places the result back into the clipboard. Since it’s an interpreted program, I can quickly write odd, uniquely named operations I want/need and include them into he main program, keeping such little oddities in the same document they’re used in. :) I’m surprised clipboard calculators are not more popular on all platforms. Even non-nerds, I’d think, would find them handy, but in my experience, they’re rare, and usually user-made. :eek2: Who says PalmOS devices aren’t real general-purpose computers? Quote
alexander Posted February 7, 2008 Report Posted February 7, 2008 One of my favorite PalmOS applications is the Hotpaws BASIC interpreter (though it can create true Palm apps, such apps are stubs that invoke the interpreter to process their imbedded text, so to my thinking it should be considered a pure interpreter). AFAIK, it’s the only programming language implementation worthy of the designation for PalmOS, in the sense of a programming language that can be used to write then run useful, non-trivial programs on the handheld device itself.And then there's Python :evil: I used to use basic interpreter on my friend's palm a lot, lots of basic programming, fun times :lol: Quote
alexander Posted February 12, 2008 Report Posted February 12, 2008 upon my further discovery, 23 and 56 + the on/C button will turn most of your self-shutting off calculators off immediately. nifty trick, not all people know it, enjoy :phones: yes 23 and 56 means that 12, 89, 78, etc dont work, nor do 35 on 62, dunno why, maybe someone who engineered one of those calcs can tell me, but it somehow magically seems to shut off the calculator.... not a well-documented fact Quote
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