Switchy Posted January 31, 2008 Report Posted January 31, 2008 The passover started when Moses was in Egypt where the Jews/Israelites were slaves. To free the Jews/Israelites, God killed every firstborn in the land of Egypt except the firstborn of households with blood painted on the outside of the house. This was the origin of the passover! Is there any evidence this story is true? Switchy;) Quote
Switchy Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Posted February 1, 2008 Is there any evidence it's not a true story? BTW,To me it seems the best way to free the israelites is to teleport them out of Egypt. That way God wouldn't have to take revenge out on the Egyptians because of Pharoh's decision (which isn't really fair)! Also, there's one God but three in one:- The father, the son & the holy spirit.Are they of one mind or three individual minds? If they are of one mind would this mean that Jesus would have some responsibility for the killing of all First Born in Egypt?(& how does this compare with Herod killing all the children in Bethlehem?) Switchy Quote
rockytriton Posted February 1, 2008 Report Posted February 1, 2008 Is there any evidence it's not a true story? There doesn't need to be evidence that it's NOT true, there needs to be evidence that it IS true. I can make peoples heads explode with my mind. Hey, there's no evidence that it's not true, so it MUST be true. ;) Quote
goku Posted March 21, 2008 Report Posted March 21, 2008 i have seen some pictures of what appears to be egyptian chariot wheels at the bottom of the red sea. Quote
REASON Posted March 21, 2008 Report Posted March 21, 2008 To free the Jews/Israelites, God killed every firstborn in the land of Egypt except the firstborn of households with blood painted on the outside of the house. Now, I ask you to take a moment and consider the above statement. :shrug: Can you not see the myriad reasons why it is utter nonsense? Quote
jedaisoul Posted March 21, 2008 Report Posted March 21, 2008 Also, there's one God but three in one:- The father, the son & the holy spirit.It is important to remember that three major religions: judaism, muslim and christianity hold the old testament as part of their religious works. Only one, christianity, claims that God is "three in one". So the concept of three-in-one is a later addition, and is largely irrelevant to the God of Abraham. Quote
Tolouse Posted March 21, 2008 Report Posted March 21, 2008 that's true and the distinction between the OT and the NT Quote
modest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Posted March 24, 2008 To me it seems the best way to free the israelites is to teleport them out of Egypt. Sorry Switchy, This is simply not true. God’s best bet would be to create a clone of the Pharaoh alike in every way except one: the clone would be sympathetic to the Israelites cause. God could then sneak the cloned doppelganger into the Pharaoh’s palace James Bond style (being mindful not to alert any guards) and make the switch. Come to think of it - it probably would be best if God gave the clone some martial arts skills in order to get into the palace unscathed and kill the old Pharaoh himself. Yeah, God could train him in aikido or jujitsu. I’m not sure which is better - aikido or jujitsu, but God would know. That’s the point. God could make an unstoppable aikido/jujitsu killing machine. Did I mention the clone is actually a machine? I probably should have mentioned that. The doppelganger-aikido-jujitsu-clone is actually half human / half mechanized indestructible titanium alloy cyborg with a terminator style Schwarzenegger accent. His only mission is to terminate the old pharaoh, take his place, and set the Israelites free. Wait a minute, this is insane! Why wouldn’t God just send his terminator clone back in time to kill the pharaoh’s mother before the pharaoh is ever born. Now that is freakin’ foolproof. -modest Quote
Southtown Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 The passover started when Moses was in Egypt where the Jews/Israelites were slaves. To free the Jews/Israelites, God killed every firstborn in the land of Egypt except the firstborn of households with blood painted on the outside of the house. This was the origin of the passover! Is there any evidence this story is true? Switchy;)This is the best docu on the subject that I have seen so far. I recommend it.Exodus Decoded - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Quote
Southtown Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 Is there any evidence it's not a true story? BTW,To me it seems the best way to free the israelites is to teleport them out of Egypt. That way God wouldn't have to take revenge out on the Egyptians because of Pharoh's decision (which isn't really fair)! Also, there's one God but three in one:- The father, the son & the holy spirit.Are they of one mind or three individual minds? If they are of one mind would this mean that Jesus would have some responsibility for the killing of all First Born in Egypt?(& how does this compare with Herod killing all the children in Bethlehem?) SwitchyMy take is that the Almighty (as in "Father") doesn't mess with things. He simply says 'do this or this will happen.' He simply knows both what we will do and also what will happen subsequently. So, he just tells people this before hand, so that after we do what he knew we would do, and after it happens what he knew would happen, then there will be no more doubt that he knows. Clear as mud? Good. Quote
modest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 This is the best docu on the subject that I have seen so far. I recommend it.Exodus Decoded - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I saw that show and I was not convinced. It basically took the two biggest events of the time we can conjure - an eruption and an exodus and tries to tie them together. But, there's no reason to tie them together, no evidence from what I saw to do so. It's basically a fanciful what-if. -modest Quote
Southtown Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 I saw that show and I was not convinced. It basically took the two biggest events of the time we can conjure - an eruption and an exodus and tries to tie them together. But, there's no reason to tie them together, no evidence from what I saw to do so. It's basically a fanciful what-if. -modestBut quite reasonable all the same. Edit, I noticed you say "two" events, naming the exodus as one of those. But he actually explains every detail of the exodus story in one real known event and the known consequences of such an event. Quote
modest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 But quite reasonable all the same. So you can date the eruption to the exodus, yes? Quote
Southtown Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 So you can date the eruption to the exodus, yes?No. I simply offer it as food for thought. Quote
modest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Posted March 25, 2008 No. I simply offer it as food for thought. As 'food-for-thought', I think it is a good show. I really do. I would just recommend a critical mind while watching it. -modest Quote
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