New idea about UFO's!

[Tormod]

Sorry, that should read "Alastair Reynolds". His website:

http://www.alastairreynolds.com/

[Ahmabeliever]

Glad to see the threads come back to life.

 

I volunteer my services as a horticultural engineer in the first pod. I will double as comedian/entertainer.

 

Here I am adrift in space

A pioneer for the human race

We have everything a human needs

I just wish I could score some weed

 

Our DNA was run through tests

You can't be in space unless you're the best

They partnered me for breeding twice

Space is swell, but I miss my wife

 

Here I am adrift in space

Ambassador for the human race

To conquer stars and galaxies

What's a black hole without Mc D's.

 

Hope that cheeered y'all up a bit. Space, let's go deep :eek_big:

[Moontanman]

Glad to see the threads come back to life.

 

I volunteer my services as a horticultural engineer in the first pod. I will double as comedian/entertainer.

 

Here I am adrift in space

A pioneer for the human race

We have everything a human needs

I just wish I could score some weed

 

Our DNA was run through tests

You can't be in space unless you're the best

They partnered me for breeding twice

Space is swell, but I miss my wife

 

Here I am adrift in space

Ambassador for the human race

To conquer stars and galaxies

What's a black hole without Mc D's.

 

Hope that cheeered y'all up a bit. Space, let's go deep :eek_big:

 

You got the job, now all we need is women! Too bad the solar system may aready be taken!

[kazbadan]

Bush itself is an alien, thats why i believe in ufos.

[Moontanman]

Bush itself is an alien, thats why i believe in ufos.

 

If Bush were an alien then he wouldn't exactly be my favorite Martian but I wanted a serious discussion of real possibilities and suggesting than aliens could be walking the Earth in any form isn't in the realm of possibilities. Come on dudes and dudettes, there are sightings/photos and films that are defy explanation even though they were well documented. How is this possible in the face of the reality of star travel and the presumed rarity of civilizations in our galaxy.

[Ahmabeliever]

Ahah! A whole new theory.

 

Lizard shape shifting aliens that assume the form of world leaders.

 

I only have one problem with this theory, it is complete and utter bulls***. :hihi:

 

From The Chronicles Of Aquarius.

 

We sail through skies of purple sheen

Me and mine in our machine

The loss of Earth still haunts our minds

Those blue skies that we left behind

 

A plan of aliens unhatched

Lizard men who were despatched

Shape shifters formed like you or I

We laughed at warnings, then we died

 

At first we missed some birds return

Thought their polluted lungs had burned

We searched the skies while on the ground

Fly by fly, they ate them down

 

Fly by fly they ate them down

Till not a maggot could be found

Then all our world was filled with faeces

And all our people rather queasy

 

The prophets of youtube have died

And heedless billions planet wide

The fading words upon their lips

Lizard men? Well holy ****! :thumbs_up

[Ahmabeliever]

No disrespect intended moontanman. I'm with you on this theory it makes more sense than any. When you say aliens, no matter where, nut jobs will turn up.

 

I cite myself as exhibit A. :thumbs_up

[Moontanman]

No disrespect intended moontanman. I'm with you on this theory it makes more sense than any. When you say aliens, no matter where, nut jobs will turn up.

 

I cite myself as exhibit A. :thumbs_up

 

Unfortunately you are correct. Any real discussion or investigation suffers from lack of seriousness. This knee jerk reaction is what I was taking about when I said the old "it might have been a comet" excuss often used by debunkers. Even though I am a skeptic I see this as a sign that bebunkers are just as guilty of sillyness as the true believers who see every light in the sky as an alien space craft. To me both attitudes are just as bad and both are unsupported by the evidense.

[kazbadan]

UFOs...what the hell are they doing here?

 

what objectives they have??

 

We will never find aby answer to that maybe. Also, actually in nowdays i think thats useless to study UFOs because its such an strange area of study that we cannot get any progress. You see: what we know from ufos its the same that we knew at 30-40 years ago :-(

 

Anyway, there is a portuguese (from my country) ufologist that, at many years ago, started a very good work on ufo studys.

 

I remember in one of his books, when i said that there may exist 4 origins for UFO inteligence:

1) Space

2) Our own planet

3) Another dimension

4) Spiritual phenomenon

 

i THINK tha these were the 4 origins.

 

btw, about that, i read a book from Robin Cook, called Abduction. Its a story of some guys exploring the ocean and then they have an "accident" and get into the underground, under the sea (miles away from the surface) and then they find an human civilization with thousands of years of existence. They were very peaceful and had high tecnology. They were behind the ufo phenomenon.

 

It was an interesting idea of course, but i think ufos may have a different origin. Honestly, i really dont know which theory is better, but i always tought on this one:

 

ufos/aliens whatever, have a base/colony here on our solar system since long time ago (basically what you said is what i always tought :-)). They just observe us. Why? i have no idea. Maybe we are like cattle to them. Maybe they feed our emotions lol. Maybe they are really freaks and get years just observing humans for passion...maybe they are buddhist-like aliens lol, and they are peaceful and trying to protect civilizations like us, maybe they like to create fear on humans...what the hell, i really dont know. thats why i get bored when i read ufo books :-(, because its completly impossible to discover their objectives!

[modest]

This knee jerk reaction is what I was taking about when I said the old "it might have been a comet" excuss often used by debunkers.

 

It's actually light from Venus that reflects off swamp gas next to a whether balloon combined with an optical illusion caused by a distant comet and reentry of space debris on a night with a lot of aurora and occasional aircraft flares and meteor strikes in an area of bat and insect swarms.

 

At least, that's what the dude in black told me while he was destroying my video tape. :hihi:

[Tolouse]

ha ha ha ha

 

lol

 

i like the video on the first page (just watched it today)

 

i've just been watching this topic, and i see a lot of issues make sense as far as eyewitnesses and videos

 

but i don't think i would be totally convinced unless i see for myself

[Moontanman]

UFOs...what the hell are they doing here?

 

what objectives they have??

 

We will never find aby answer to that maybe. Also, actually in nowdays i think thats useless to study UFOs because its such an strange area of study that we cannot get any progress. You see: what we know from ufos its the same that we knew at 30-40 years ago :-(

 

Anyway, there is a portuguese (from my country) ufologist that, at many years ago, started a very good work on ufo studys.

 

I remember in one of his books, when i said that there may exist 4 origins for UFO inteligence:

1) Space

2) Our own planet

3) Another dimension

4) Spiritual phenomenon

 

i THINK tha these were the 4 origins.

 

btw, about that, i read a book from Robin Cook, called Abduction. Its a story of some guys exploring the ocean and then they have an "accident" and get into the underground, under the sea (miles away from the surface) and then they find an human civilization with thousands of years of existence. They were very peaceful and had high tecnology. They were behind the ufo phenomenon.

 

It was an interesting idea of course, but i think ufos may have a different origin. Honestly, i really dont know which theory is better, but i always tought on this one:

 

ufos/aliens whatever, have a base/colony here on our solar system since long time ago (basically what you said is what i always tought :-)). They just observe us. Why? i have no idea. Maybe we are like cattle to them. Maybe they feed our emotions lol. Maybe they are really freaks and get years just observing humans for passion...maybe they are buddhist-like aliens lol, and they are peaceful and trying to protect civilizations like us, maybe they like to create fear on humans...what the hell, i really dont know. thats why i get bored when i read ufo books :-(, because its completly impossible to discover their objectives!

 

In my first post I suggested an idea that was not only reasonable but also required no fantastic technology beyond our understanding for them to be here. This would also tie into why they might be interested in us. What I really want to do is point out that the struggle between the true believer and the total skeptic has interfered with any real investigation into the phenomenon.

 

There are sightings that cannot be explained away by knee jerk debunking like the B-52 bomber crew's sighting. There are also sightings that are clung to with an almost religious zeal by true believers that are almost certainly due to something other than alien visitation, i.e. alien abductions. If we are to understand this phenomenon we must approach it without an agenda.

 

I thought I saw (literally) a flying saucer one night while coming back from surf fishing. A squall had blown up suddenly and we had to pack the Jeep up in a driving wind and rain. Driving back down the beach with mist and spray all around as I made it through a gap in the dunes I saw a metallic disc fly across in from of my Jeep. I was stunned, I stopped with the wind whipping and the surf running under my jeep just in time to see another disc fly by. But this time the angle was different and as it flew by I was able to see it was my head lights reflecting off the under side of a sea gull!

 

The rain, mist, wind, and my mental exhaustion had combined to create an optical illusion. If another bird hadn't flew past me at the time I might have come away convinced In had seen a small metallic disc.

 

So an observer can be fooled but this doesn't mean all sightings are optical illusions. I have no doubt that many sightings are of an unknown natural phenomena. We might learn about our natural world in this investigation if not anything else.

[kazbadan]

Yes i agree with you. In my last post my objective was not to say that ufos are not real! I pretended to say that it just makes me feel sad the fact that ufos are so strange that they will never show themselves to us. So sneaky that in the next 50 years our knowledge about ufos will not grow up any further! :-(

 

About sightings that are just ilusions, i remember when, at some few years ago, 2 planets were very near. Many people in my town tought that it was an ufo. When i saw the "ufos" i realise (i understand a little of astronomy) that was just venus(?? can remember) and other planet. Unfortunatly i never saw an ufo. i would like to see one :hihi: