Fishteacher73 Posted February 9, 2005 Report Posted February 9, 2005 It would seem unlikely that any human remains would be on Anarctica (Aside from possible modern remains). Early humans showed up at the EARLIEST about 40 million years ago (most estimates put it at about half of that at 20 million years ago). Antarctica was well below a lot of ice by that point. There would not really be any resources to attract settlement or exploration. As for the coelacanth, a true wierdo. Last of the lobe finned fishes, a living fossil. Although sharks are just as ancient, and still quite prominant in the oceans. Quote
MortenS Posted February 9, 2005 Author Report Posted February 9, 2005 there are lots of different dinosaur fossils found in Antarctica. And also a marsupial fossil. The first dinosaur fossil was found in 1986, while the marsupial fossil was found in 1982 (about 40 million years old) Quote
alxian Posted February 9, 2005 Report Posted February 9, 2005 really?? if it was a forest would there not be coal and oil???? **edit i mean jungle...i'm too canadian, when i think trees i automatically think forest** when you say antartica.. you mean the coast? i wanna have them use a (stone burner, to pay homage to herbert) of some sort to get at main land antartica, near where they claim a fresh water lake exists http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf102/sf102g10.htmhttp://www.spacedaily.com/news/antarctic-04g.html kinda lends credence to the atlantis myth if antarctica is atlantis... its covered in water (a stretch) has a volcano (true) moved away from where it once was (further up in the atlantic ocean, and thus the americas and african northern coast (closer to egypt and the mediterranean)) imagine it.. a hole surrounded by solar panels, a sub surface base burried in the ice to avoid exposure (which wouldn't need to be closed just fortified) and a deep bore hole down to the lake (that must remain un disturbed, anything going down that hole must be surgically sanct.. not a trace of life from the surface to contaminate it.. since europa as the artical mentions is the only other possible place to find life of this pristine quality in our solar system that we know of. (sorry for the poor wording) Quote
Fishteacher73 Posted February 10, 2005 Report Posted February 10, 2005 Here's another one, not so much as the organism, but the whole process of this parasite, Dracunculus medinensis. The condition of having this parasite is called dracunculiasis. This is a parasitic worm in sub-Saharan Africa infects people through the water system. Adult female Dracunculus worms emerge from the skin of Infected persons annually. Persons with worms protruding through the skin may enter sources of drinking water and unwittingly allow the worm to release larvae into the water. These larvae are ingested by fresh water copepods ("water fleas") where these develop into the infective stage in 10-14 days. Persons become infected by drinking water containing the water fleas harboring the infective stage larvae of Dracunculus medinensis. Once inside the body, the stomach acid digests the water flea, but not the Guinea worm. These larvae find their way to the small intestine, where they penetrate the wall of the intestine and pass into the body cavity. During the next 10-14 months, the female Guinea worm grows to a full size adult 60-100 centimeters (2-3 feet) long and as wide as a cooked spaghetti noodle, and migrates to the site where she will emerge, usually the lower limbs. A blister develops on the skin at the site where the worm will emerge. This blister causes a very painful burning sensation and it will eventually (within 24-72 hours) rupture. For relief, persons will immerse the affected limb into water, or may just walk in to fetch water. When someone with a Guinea worm ulcer enters the water, the adult female releases a milky white liquid containing millions of immature larvae into the water, thus contaminating the water supply. For several days after it has emerged from the ulcer, the female Guinea worm is capable of releasing more larvae whenever it comes in contact with water. Here's a link with some more info: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dpd/parasites/dracunculiasis/factsht_dracunculiasis.htm Quote
alxian Posted February 10, 2005 Report Posted February 10, 2005 yummy. . . *barf so.. when on vacation remember to boil your water.. how about your [queazy] pork taco? http://www.rense.com/general9/brain.htm Quote
Fishteacher73 Posted February 10, 2005 Report Posted February 10, 2005 There's always the botfly, Dermatobia hominis. It likes to inject an egg into the victim (humans among them) it bites. The egg then develops through the pupa, larva, etc. stages until it is an adult botfly, at which point it burrows its way out (at about 1" long) from the skin!Fun...Now take good care of your pet Timmy...We want your botfly to grow up big and strong, don't we? :) Quote
bumab Posted February 10, 2005 Report Posted February 10, 2005 I like the tube worm Osedax. With the aid of symbiotic bacteria, it eats whale bones on the bottom of the deep ocean. All the worms are females, the males are microscopic and live inside the females their entire lives, many males per female. It's a pretty cool looking worm. http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/2004/07/29/worms.php Quote
Fishteacher73 Posted February 11, 2005 Report Posted February 11, 2005 Those wacky critters.... :cup: Quote
TeleMad Posted February 12, 2005 Report Posted February 12, 2005 These are the kind of things I was fascinated by when I took zoology in college. Before that, I had a picture of animals as the normal lion, elephant, dolphin, cat, mouse, snake, etc. Then I started learning about all these oddball creatures - seastars with a water vascular system, nematodes that reproduce by splitting themselves in half and the having each half regenerate its missing parts, flukes and trichina worms, and so on - and was fascinated. Quote
Fishteacher73 Posted February 17, 2005 Report Posted February 17, 2005 Pehaps not an odd organism, but truely odd none the less is the teratoma (from Latin: monster tumor). A specific type of tumor in humans that often stem from either the ovaries or testicles. What makes these tumors odd is twhat they develop. Some grow hair and teeth others secrete the human hormones such as the "pregnancy hormone", HCG, or thyroxine, a hormone produced by the thyroid. :( Creepy.... Quote
TeleMad Posted March 5, 2005 Report Posted March 5, 2005 Saw something interesting last night in a National Geographic show called Spider Power. They showed a spider called Porsche (pronounced por-sha, not sure of the spelling or if it is the technical name or just a nickname) that, despite having a typical-for-a-spider puny, tiny brain, showed signs of thought in its prey-stalking behavior. "Porsche" hunts other spiders. They showed it attempt to climb onto another spider's web for a direct attack but the web was too weak. So "Porsche" changed tactics and instead strummed the web to mimic a distressed insect entangled in it. Though this tactic worked earlier in the show for "Porsche", it didn't here. So "Porsche" changed tactics yet again. She appeared to walk away but actually was taking a circuitous route to get behind and above the spider web. Once there, "Porsche" spun out a single strand of silk and slowly lowered herself down to just above the other spider, then pounced. I've heard of the many uses of webs but had never seen them video taped. A few of the more interesting ones: 1) One spider spins a catch net and holds it with it's forward limbs; when an insect walks beneath it, it takes the web and throws it on the prey, sort of like a person holding a blanket with two hands over a cat and then trapping the cat in the blanket and wrapping it up. 2) Another spider shoots its web at its prey: spiderman style. But there's more...the silk itself is toxic. 3) The Bollus (<-spelling? Bolas?) spider spins a single strand of silk down below it then secretes a sticky "glue" that runs down and forms a droplet at the end. The Bollus spider then emits a pheromone that mimics that of a moth. When another moth is attracted, the spider starts swirling it's single-stranded glue trap around in the air until it hits its target. The stuck moth is then reeled in, and as with most spiders' prey, injected the paralyzing venom and then wrapped up in silk, alive, for later consumption. Quote
Turtle Posted March 6, 2005 Report Posted March 6, 2005 ___There is no more dynamically odd creature for me than the Spider. No human attempt to reproduce web has suceded to date.___Spiders use web to fly, capture, build housing, & protect eggs as well as many other uses, some of which Telemad mentioned. In addition, they make a special kind of web that 'glows' with ultraviolet light to lure insects; it is an imitastion of certain flowers which also glow in UV.___The patterns on some spiders' backs mimic other creatures as well as plants.___Spiders web is many times the tensile strength of any 'fiber' synthetically produced. Quote
Tormod Posted March 6, 2005 Report Posted March 6, 2005 ___There is no more dynamically odd creature for me than the Spider. No human attempt to reproduce web has suceded to date. But here's a weird attempt at something slightly different: I hosted a brief lecture about science for kids recently and one of the speakers told the kids about how Canadian researches have managed to splice the spider web production gene into the milk production gene in goats. So these goats actually have spider web filaments in their milk... Spideygoats? Godeys? Yuck. :hyper: Quote
Turtle Posted March 6, 2005 Report Posted March 6, 2005 ___I think I heard that too. Of course the question then is which 'kind' of web. Not only is the chemical structure a consideration of web, but the apparatus which produces it. In Spiders the apparatus is the spinnerets(sp). The action of these appendages is just as critical as the chemistry. They control how fast web is produced, the topography of the web, & the structural arrangement of webbing, among other considerations.___Combine that with the 'intent' of the Spider & you have a very dynamic paradigm indeed. Love the Spide & its oddity. Quote
TeleMad Posted March 6, 2005 Report Posted March 6, 2005 The show last night mentioned that a single spider can form half a dozen or more different types of silk, on the fly, by altering the combination of several glands that are used during the excretion of the silk. PS: I too have heard about genetically modifying goats to produce spider silk. Quote
Turtle Posted March 6, 2005 Report Posted March 6, 2005 Just think of the cool buildings we could make with it! Clothes too; shoes you could walk up walls with & gloves too. Lions & Spiders & Bears, oh my! Quote
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