Pyrotex Posted June 23, 2008 Report Posted June 23, 2008 Well, I am rather semi-stunned by the two page full color ad inside Scientific American magazine (July, 2008) for the book: Our Undiscovered Universe, by Terence Witt. The book purports to completely revolutionize all of physics from the ground up, based upon a newly understood underlying geometry of the universe. The associated website is www.nullphysics. It has excerpts from the book, a full table of contents. I read the excerpts. I am afraid to say, that every sentence almost makes sense to me. Take that any way you want. Anybody out there buying the book? Please don't make me buy it--finances are really tight right now. I will if I have to {sigh}. We need to discuss this! If it's valid, it does away with Dark Energy, Dark Matter, and the Big Bang. No more Inflation or Expanding Universe. String Theory goes away. 11 Dimensions becomes unnecessary. These are all GOOD THINGS! :rolleyes: The key phrase is: IF IT'S VALID. Quote
Thunderbird Posted June 23, 2008 Report Posted June 23, 2008 I will have to wait also, I need to order more diamond tools for a project I just started , so my wish list for books all go on the back burner for now. It does look interesting in that he’s addressing the universe as a whole, instead of just parts, and claims to have answers that science usually don't address at all, The why’s of existence. Fascinating, but I’ll need to find out more. Suppose a primitive native, with no prior contact with modern civilization, found a digitalwatch on a jungle trail. Being the shaman of his village, he studies this object and soonrecognizes patterns in the symbols it displays. Eventually, he develops a model of theprecession of these symbols, and wows his tribesman by predicting the appearance andmoment of arrival of the next cipher. Yet he has no idea what the watch is or why it waslaying on the trail in the first place. These are insignificant details, he tells his ignorantcompatriots, because he knows what the next symbol is going to look like andapproximately when it will appear, and this remarkable foreknowledge transcends all otherconsiderations. As physics creeps into the twenty-first century, its methodology bears anuncanny resemblance to the approach used by our friend with the digital watch. Scarierstill, many physicists would not see this as a problem. We can do better, far better.Anyone who has ever wondered why the universe exists and how it functions on the largestscale; anyone with a critical mind who wants to know the truth and is weary and dissatisfiedwith the prevailing quantum and cosmological dogma; is absolutely going to love this book.Welcome to the new world … the world where reality is real, not the winner of a sciencefiction contest.www.nullphysics. Quote
CHADS Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 In his book he states : "The Big Bang allegedly produces space through expansion. How can there be vacuum fluctuations without a Vacuum?" Empty Space has no Chemical Medium in Which Sound can travel... This is the vacuum is it not. And he says : "If no events preceded the Big Bang, how could time be reckoned atall? This is the time before time problem. " Scientists dont say that there was nothing before the big bang ..There has to be Potential... I have touched on his Finite hyperspace ideas before in certain forums its purley a dimensional concept. He says also "that we should do better than what Archimedes said about gravity Attraction is objects wanting to return to their proper place" ~ I think Archimedes was on a good thing .. maybe everything wants to get back to the big bang but there is too much in the way now. Like water falling it will have to spread out like a pancake in gravity but in space it does not.... The total mass/energy in the universe is gravity it wants to spread out like water. Seeking more freedom and comfort. I have only read inserts but i like his finite hyperspace i share the veiw in a less mathimatical way ........ Quote
Moontanman Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 Well, I am rather semi-stunned by the two page full color ad inside Scientific American magazine (July, 2008) for the book: Our Undiscovered Universe, by Terence Witt. The book purports to completely revolutionize all of physics from the ground up, based upon a newly understood underlying geometry of the universe. The associated website is www.nullphysics. It has excerpts from the book, a full table of contents. I read the excerpts. I am afraid to say, that every sentence almost makes sense to me. Take that any way you want. Anybody out there buying the book? Please don't make me buy it--finances are really tight right now. I will if I have to {sigh}. We need to discuss this! If it's valid, it does away with Dark Energy, Dark Matter, and the Big Bang. No more Inflation or Expanding Universe. String Theory goes away. 11 Dimensions becomes unnecessary. These are all GOOD THINGS! :eek_big: The key phrase is: IF IT'S VALID. I was hoping to get it from the public library eventually. If anyone has read it a review would be nice. Quote
Pyrotex Posted June 25, 2008 Author Report Posted June 25, 2008 NEWS FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!Hello Mr. and Mrs. America, and all the ships at sea... :eek_big: I just got an email from "Sara", a publicist for the book "The Undiscovered Universe". She has kindly offered to to send me a FREE copy of the book. :lol: :lol: :hihi:NOW, we're cooking with petrol. Quote
Moontanman Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 NEWS FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!Hello Mr. and Mrs. America, and all the ships at sea... :eek_big: I just got an email from "Sara", a publicist for the book "The Undiscovered Universe". She has kindly offered to to send me a FREE copy of the book. :lol: :lol: :hihi:NOW, we're cooking with petrol. I hope you know this means you have to review the book for us? Quote
Pyrotex Posted June 25, 2008 Author Report Posted June 25, 2008 I hope you know this means you have to review the book for us?Absotively! Posilutely! No ****, Sherlock! I only live to serve. :eek_big: Quote
Moontanman Posted June 25, 2008 Report Posted June 25, 2008 Absotively! Posilutely! No ****, Sherlock! I only live to serve. :eek_big: Yeah, don't we all, don't we all...... Quote
Boerseun Posted June 26, 2008 Report Posted June 26, 2008 Do you know whether this guy have written any supporting papers that have been reviewed in the science community? I haven't read a lot on the site you linked to, apart from that he's charging lotsa bucks for his book, and supplies a few teasers. That made my "McCutcheon - Final Theory" bullshitometer go off. If you give the book a positive review, I will change my mind. You have to listen to wheelchair-bound rocket scientists, after all... :) Quote
Pyrotex Posted June 26, 2008 Author Report Posted June 26, 2008 ...You have to listen to wheelchair-bound rocket scientists, after all... :thumbs_do Yes. :-/ You do. Quote
Qfwfq Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 He says also "that we should do better than what Archimedes said about gravity Attraction is objects wanting to return to their proper place"Sure it wasn't Aristotle? I've no time to find the quote of his in that site but I'm curious to see if he was mis-quoting. Quote
Pyrotex Posted July 9, 2008 Author Report Posted July 9, 2008 Okay, frenz an nayburz,the book has arriven. aaahhh... arrived. And it is one swell, book, too. Hardbound. Big. Heavy. High quality paper. Full color book jacket. With a nice letter from Sara Lien, the publicist. Reading commences tonight.Pyro PS: Reading commenced. Mind being blown. Existence vs. Non-existence. Some of it seems to belong in the "Nothing" thread. Not easy reading, but my bullshit meter has only twitched a few times. Have to hold on to the book with both hands. This guy discusses philosophy with mathematics!! Omigod. :eek: And he creates the entire universe out of philosophy!! Cranial pressure is at maximum. Can't hold on... much longer... IQ flux exceeding conceptual limits... Quote
Reality Check Posted October 2, 2008 Report Posted October 2, 2008 See this review of “Our Undiscovered Universe” by Terence Witt from a professional physicist:web(dot)mit(dot)edu/~bmonreal/www/Null_Physics_Review.html"Our Undiscovered Universe: Null Physics", a crackpot book by Terence Witt Also see my review athomepages(dot)ihug(dot)co(dot)nz/~fiski/ouu_review.htmlMore on "Our Undiscovered Universe" by Terence Wit The flaws of this crackpot book are many and include:Redefining the concept of infinity as a length with magnitude.Defining a line as a series of points written as zeros, treating them as numbers so that they add up to zero and then treating the number zero as a point again!A really bad atomic model "proving" that a electron orbiting a proton has a ground state that it cannot decay from by creating a new physical law.Using the high school description of a neutron as a proton plus an electron and not realizing that this is just his atomic model!Postulating that galaxies have "galactic cores" which are super massive objects that are not quite black holes and not realizing that the centre of the Milky Way is well observed. These recycle stars into hydrogen. Oddly enough astronomers have not noticed dozens of stars vanishing from the galactic centre in the many images that they have taken over the last few decades.Conclusion: Bad mathematics and even worse physics. Quote
Pyrotex Posted October 2, 2008 Author Report Posted October 2, 2008 Thanks curious.It's almost impossible to describe how really dreadful this book is.The author redefines the entire basis of ordinary math when it suits him.He conjurs up "profound / mystical" equations with his tricked-out math rules, and then derives off-the-wall, whacko interpretations from them, describing the equations as "proof".The book itself is beautiful and extravagantly done. So well done, in fact, that this alone could be intimidating (in the sense of convincing) to a naive reader.This is the kind of book that a Home-Schooling, Creationist, Homeopathist, Numerologist, Fundementalist, Neo-Conservative, Math-phobic, Science hater would LOVE to buy for his children.It gives me the shivers. Quote
Buffy Posted October 3, 2008 Report Posted October 3, 2008 What I want to know is where is all the money for this self published piece of tripe coming from to pay for these two-page full color ads in all the science magazines? Its been in Scientific American for months now, and that's *big bucks*! Follow the money, :eek:Buffy Quote
Jay-qu Posted October 3, 2008 Report Posted October 3, 2008 That really dissapoints me that Scientific American would display the ad.. I guess its all about the money in the end! What if the someone wanted to advertise this crazy story book about how an imaginary being created the entire universe in 6 days and then put his mortal son on the Earth to instil values in us.. Im sure if they paid enough that person could get an ad in there. Sad. Quote
Buffy Posted October 3, 2008 Report Posted October 3, 2008 SciAm has taken a lot of flack over the last couple of years because they've gone "liberal" on global warming and have had a lot of staunch anti-Creationist pieces. As a result, as far as advertising goes, they have been somewhat sensitive to accusations of "censorship." I don't blame them for either allowing such drivel to be promoted or taking the money. I can't wait for Michael Shermer to rip it apart in one of his Skeptic columns though! Send him an e-mail and let him know he should! Boy, we've gotten so much traffic from the Final Theory folks, isn't anyone going to try to defend this one as "obviously true?" Where's his publicist? He uses his folly like a stalking-horse and under the presentation of that he shoots his wit, :hyper:Buffy Quote
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