I'm here for the terra preta

[Tiabin]

Hello everyone!

Currently working on my undergrad, and enjoying doing a massive amount of research before launching a venture into organic gardening. I have a sincere love of science, and am fascinated with carbonization of soil/terra preta.

 

Looking forward to joining the discussion.

[freeztar]

Welcome to Hypography! :naughty:

 

Dig in! :evil:

[alexander]

Dig in!

 

Just don't forget to call your power company before doing it... trust me it's not a fun experience if you don't and hit one of those wires... oh wait, what are we talking about? :)

 

Welcome to hypography, the only place you know where we are not only interested in the carbonization of the [math](CH_3)_3C[/math], but other substances, though 1,1-dimethylethyl does keep us going on those long knights....

 

hehe hope you get the humor

[Tiabin]

Thank you both for replying to me!

No, alexander, I didn't understand all of that... but I see where you're going with things. Well, the gloves are off, buddy. How dare you try to outwit me with your chemistry knowledge? Well, I command the power of...... LIGGGHTNING!!!!!!! Just kidding. I'm weird too.

Looking forward to probably sticking around... You guys seem to have an unusually intelligent crowd, which I like.

[alexander]

[ce](CH3)3C[/ce] is a family of butanol alcohol that i am looking into.

Because its longer hydrocarbon chain causes it to be fairly non-polar, it is more similar to gasoline than is ethanol. Butanol has been demonstrated to work in some vehicles designed for use with gasoline without any modification.[1] It can be produced from biomass (as "biobutanol") as well as fossil fuels (as "petrobutanol"); both biobutanol and petrobutanol have the same chemical properties.

 

so its a compound of some interest to me.

 

the catch was that you could have seen a CH3 and recognized that it's an alcohol, and thought that we used it for consumption.... but it's not ethanol [ce]CH3CH2OH[/ce] more strictly written as [ce]C2H5OH[/ce]

 

But i have to say, my knowledge of chemistry is, well, none actually, i hated it in school, and i only know enough to get along and do my various researches...

[Tiabin]

Haha...Alex, I think you were doing exactly what I do to new people I meet. I talk as though I expect them to know something exceedingly esoteric that i'm into to see how they respond.

 

You can learn a lot of things about a person... Whether or not they know a few things about what I'm talking about, even if it's very little. This tells me how well-read they are on my interests. And the other thing...

Whether or not they're liars, or at least fakers. You ever get into a conversation with someone about a topic you're interested in, happen to know enough about to know that they're using words that don't really fit in order to sound smart.

 

Anyway, so we have screening in common. May I ask why you're interested in this alcohol?

[alexander]

My interest in it requires a mention of a device that someone came up with that utilizes cobalt feride and lots of mirrors to convert [ce]CO2[/ce] and [ce]H2O[/ce] in the atmosphere into [math]CO_1+H+O[/math].

(discussed here : http://hypography.com/forums/engineering-applied-science/13925-sunshine-petrol-project.html )

 

CO is one of the building blocks of a hydrocarbon, aka [ce]C_{n}H_{2n+2}[/ce], which are the building blocks of butanol [ce]C4H10O[/ce], which seems to be a better alcohol fit for replacing gasoline, because it can be use instead of gas without any modifications of the engine, and there is no need to add other fossil fuels to the mix, like in E85 fuel...

 

hence my interest in butanol.

 

Now, if anyone can post what the process involving the separation of CO out of [ce]CO1 +H +O[/ce] (i'd imagine it would be the heavier gas), conversion of CO to [ce]C_nH_{2n+2}[/ce] and finally conversion that to [ce]C4H10O[/ce] (yeah not a chemist here) , i would greatly appreciate it...

[Tiabin]

I appreciate your attention to the energy crisis, may your endeavors save the world, and garner you a nobel prize. And greatly enhanced lifespan.

[freeztar]

Now, if anyone can post what the process involving the separation of CO out of [ce]CO1 +H +O[/ce] (i'd imagine it would be the heavier gas), conversion of CO to [ce]C_nH_{2n+2}[/ce] and finally conversion that to [ce]C4H10O[/ce] (yeah not a chemist here) , i would greatly appreciate it...

 

Modest or MB might be able to help with this. Why not post this in the chemistry forum? :)

[alexander]

And greatly enhanced lifespan.

I think we've determined that running 30 miles a week for 4 years at a mile in 10 minutes enhances one's life span by about 150 nanoseconds.... (search the intro section if you're interested in math :eek_big: )

 

Modest or MB might be able to help with this. Why not post this in the chemistry forum?

simpe answer, really.... because i'm lazy... ok, ok, i'll post it there

 

Anyway, so we have screening in common.

Well, i wouldn't quite call it that, as i will converse with just about anyone, and i guess if you knew me personally, you'd have a hard time imagining a person who'd really dislike me (and my sister does not count). In my case, i have been trying to keep up with this tradition i started, of posting a line in the welcome thread that starts with "Welcome to Hypography, the only place you know...", and its hard to come up with good material. My goal is to have a whitty and sometimes funny line, though sometimes, they spark interesting discussions.

 

I am in no way a researcher on alternative fuels, not to say they don't interest me, but i venture into a lot of areas, because to me, information is interesting, any kind of information, any field, anything, i am an infoholic on steroids (not literally) :hyper:

 

It's interesting to note that i actually have trouble reading books, and yet i have spent days researching subjects that presented interest, and read more then books from various sources on them. It's strange, but in my bedroom, there is not one book, there are over a half dozen books that i commonly pick up, and read into. Lets see, i have Seven Hawking's new book, almost finished that, i have a book on ancient egyptian, i have a book on Mujahdeen tactics in the russo-afghan war, i have the opposite tactics in that war as well, i have a book, shoot can't remember the name, but basically this guy, who goes to germany to look for his long-lost relatives, to learn when and how they died in WWII, though blanking on the name, i have a book on global illumination algorithms (waaaaay too advanced math, dealing with hemispherical coordinates and all kinds of that fun junk), i have a book i think its called along the lines of "the art of exploitation", only book on the subject i know of that has no pictures, and is filled with code... and yeah, i pick up one of the books, every now and again, and read some more into it, and haven't finished any of them yet.

 

Oh so back on the subject. I don't think its screening, although i have to say that screening is very important in personal relationships, because without screening, i often don't know how i should speak to a particular person, dont want to be to project that i have to stupidify something a lot for them, and i also dont want to blow their brains...

 

Though i'm not an easy person to have a personal relationship with, of a friend-type, where i am an easy and outgoing person to everyone, i often find that i confuse people that are unable to follow long and at times complex logic of my ideas... partly why lots of english teachers didn't like my writing... so what that my paragraph is one sentence and takes up most of the page, its one thought...?

[Tiabin]

Haha dude, you're cracking me up. I'm pretty bad about books too... I recently developed a policy though, since books are cheap and they harbor tons of information... If I see one I like, I'll go ahead and buy it. Who knows, if the end of the world comes, and industrialized civilization ends because of the energy crisis... By god, I'll have my books. They serve as insulators on the wall too.

 

I notice if I buy a new book, it also motivates me to finish old ones that I'd been procrastinating. Who cares if I end up with a huge library I haven't read? It's classy to have lots of books, right? When I finish one book, I'll have tons of others surrounding my various strange interests that have been pre-screened for awesomeness. (I dig amazon ratings for book selection too.)

[freeztar]

They serve as insulators on the wall too...Who cares if I end up with a huge library I haven't read? It's classy to have lots of books, right?

 

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