belovelife Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 as far as galaxy formation with hydrogenits cold out thereand the hydrogen was probly solidwouldn't it take some sort of energy to add heatso if there was a larger gravitational spot(possibly created by billions of billions of years of hydrogen being bound together and finally bonding on an atomic levelor just gravity pulling 2 atoms of hydrogen together and then more combinations of this effect)then the release of energy in the fusion process would eexert force to push away hydrogen, but how much force would be involved in the initial reactionit would push, but then probly contract now *if the nucleus of atoms are formed of matter and antimatter then a random differential in the matter-antimatter->energy process could have allowed for the initial fusion iether way it happened after the intial event, things cooled down againand gravity did its thingi think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belovelife Posted December 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 now if there were free nutrons floating around then this could be a gravity point once these collided with hydrogen it produced the second isotopewhich was heavier than the firstcould this have happend to help with fusion not sure but if there were free nuetrons they could have right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belovelife Posted January 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 well thats the question**happy new year****what if the fundimental form of energy is partially magnetic(for lack of a better word)**[and being different then electrons]so this "energy"goes back and forth through its inherint propertiesitself containing a magnetic role,then as it condenses it creates matter anti matter pairs then goes back because of its stability levelthen through the billions of years it changed form to electrons [through minute fluctuations in the matter-antimatter switchingwhich could annialate the pair, and induce a change in energy form] the the first molecule was madeh2because of the first change to electronsby change in form of energythe electron interacted by being attracted to the "proton" [magnetic pairs of matter-antimatter/other energy]but it only attracted one per proton, but the level of the firt shell allowed 2 electrons max, based on how many could get that close to the magnetic fieldthen 2 protons shared 2 electrons and it was at a state of rest because of itthen this allowed more expantion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belovelife Posted January 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 this primordial element before electrons got involved could be the key to solving the dark matter issue also i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belovelife Posted January 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 now wouldn't the change in energy create what we see in star and galaxy formationsyou know the big colorful gas cloudsas different energy levels of the gas emirged, then the electron interacted in different ways, being a new form was able to trasfer between energy states quicker, hence photons and stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belovelife Posted January 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 ok for my perception let me start overlets start with a cloud of dark matter defined by matter that does not have any electrons connected to any protonassumptions:dark matter = nucleus = (ether --->m/am------>ether----->m/am.......etc)+or-(nuetron)matter = nucleus + electronether = primordial form of energy--------(constantly creating matter/antimatter pairs that are highly unstable--------so they annialate and form m/am pairs constantly [possibly thousands of --------times a second]) now for the billions of years the ether did its thing until its first decayand what i mean by that its first change, similar to electricity changing to photonsbut on a harder change level, more similar to natural decay of potassium now when the first decay occured the proton was now shielded with electrons, and the ether reaction process was stabilized moreas the elctrons were at the same time attracted and repulsed by the continuing formation and annialation of the m/am pairs and the magnetics accociated with itand since the energy was in ether form more often then m/am pairsits effect is gravity, observed as a weak force since the energy within the proton is rarely m/am pairs in relation to the amount of time it is ether:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belovelife Posted January 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 now i;m not surebut on this line of thinkingthe formation of different element could be based on the electron strength vs proton proton bond strengthand by this i mean, say the protons [in form of dark matter] were bonded in a crystaline patternthe addition of the electron to the latice may have expanded the latticeit (electron) having more strength to bond to the proton then the other protonthus giving pure hydrogen1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belovelife Posted January 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 but mabe it only made hydrogen at the outer reaches of the dark matter formationmabe deepe rinto the cloud of dark matter other elements were created because the reaction time versus the bond time crunched the matter together into heavier elementsbut for it to do so it had to be alot closer to the centerthat is why there would be more hydrogen than any other elementsbecause of the initial reaction was to "popcorn"the giant dark matter mass, but the electrons move very quickfast enough to exert enough force to trigger a reaction on the level of fusionbut only at the deep levels, and the deeper into the dark matter mass, the heavier the elements created Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belovelife Posted January 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 ok so take a region in space [that is not fully developed to our standards of space time] where there is dark matterand until it reaches a 0 reaction point, it continually emits hydrogen1now when there is enough of the destabilization of the dark matter [0 point]it ignights like the pics of new stars/galaxiesthereby fully bending to our shape of spacetimeand lighting all the already made hydrogen that surrounds the affected area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belovelife Posted January 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 http://www.nasa.gov/mov/299642main_CAS_A_with_zooms_purple_sm_web.mov watch this video it is exactly what i am envisioning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belovelife Posted January 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 i think this is a revarsal on the current line of thought on the subject Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belovelife Posted January 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 based on this line of thinkingi hypothesize that if we could fill a chamber with hydrogen and strip all the electrons from themthen we have 3 choices of experimentationeither add nuetrons to a small amount of the stripped hydrogensee if it destabalises and creates electrons that then create hydrogen again keep drawing electrons out, see if more electrons are createdhence the more we draw electrons out the more electrons are created until the fuel source (hydrogen) is goneorcondense the stripped hyrogen and wait to see if it produces electrons naturally(although we may be waiting a long time, but it may destabalise the process of the proton function to react faster, and we may be able to use this as a energy source) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belovelife Posted January 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 ok for my perception let me start overlets start with a cloud of dark matter defined by matter that does not have any electrons connected to any protonassumptions:dark matter = nucleus = (ether --->m/am------>ether----->m/am.......etc)+or-(nuetron)matter = nucleus + electronether = primordial form of energy--------(constantly creating matter/antimatter pairs that are highly unstable--------so they annialate and form m/am pairs constantly [possibly thousands of --------times a second]) now for the billions of years the ether did its thing until its first decayand what i mean by that its first change, similar to electricity changing to photonsbut on a harder change level, more similar to natural decay of potassium now when the first decay occured the proton was now shielded with electrons, and the ether reaction process was stabilized moreas the elctrons were at the same time attracted and repulsed by the continuing formation and annialation of the m/am pairs and the magnetics accociated with itand since the energy was in ether form more often then m/am pairsits effect is gravity, observed as a weak force since the energy within the proton is rarely m/am pairs in relation to the amount of time it is ether:eek_big: ether-->m/am= impetaliderived from esperanto impet- energyali- change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belovelife Posted January 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 now for the billions of years the impetali did its thing until its first decayand what i mean by that its first change, similar to electricity changing to photonsbut on a harder change level, more similar to an electric stove changing electricity to heat(easy to change to heat, harder to change back) now when the first decay occured the other impetali was now shielded with electrons, and the impetali reaction process was stabilized moreas the elctrons were at the same time attracted and repulsed by the continuing formation and annialation of the m/am pairs and the magnetics accociated with itand since the energy was in ether form more often then m/am pairsits effect is gravity, observed as a weak force since the energy within the proton is rarely m/am pairs in relation to the amount of time it is ether Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belovelife Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 i have thought on this subject alsoalthough you throw a new light on the subjectputting the 2 together i get a picture. ok for sun spots, i have been pondering fusion of the sunnow say you take it like sediment layerseach layer being heavier as you get to the corenow with the heat and pressure together, this causes fusion for a solar flare, this is like having one part of a rocket engine heating up more than another, causing a localized fusion to occur, sun spot?(the new matter formed creates a vacume effect because the fusion process was more eficient then you would think thus taking in heat energy to form the matter) ? either way (i'm not sure if the vacume for that one in particular is possible because it would then imply that the heat is directly changed to matter)(this acts like a lightning bolt in reverse pulling heat energy to equalized the affected area) but for the sun1 -> to sun2 good ideasay in our suns growth, there was a line of growth drawnat this line, a certain amount of super dense matter was created ( fusion of heavy elements),then it pulled (gravity) the rest of the sun inward so fastthat the outside (or specific "sediment"layer) cooled enough to harden for a moment, like a shellwhen the pressure and heat equalized, it exerted pressure on the the shellcausing a pulse (windows breaking) although i still see our solar system as a 3 star system2minor1 majorand neptune is huge also just a line of thoughtthats where i am Ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belovelife Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 let me rephrase thatmore like a lightning boltless like a tornado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belovelife Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 now talking about this from my view of dark matter our galaxy may be the effect of thiseach star/solar system a "bubble" if you willthat was "burped" by this process going on in the center of the galaxy, whereas our centerwould not be a black hole in the traditional scencemore like one of those spinning firecrackers that spin and shoot sparks every whereeach spark a solar systemeach star, this process happening, where periodic similar pulses (sparks)would eject matter into the solar system (solar flares)in the same respect as the spark that form starsif sothen our star would be powered by "dark matter"a black hole would be dark matterand the light from the sun would be the process itslelfof the reaction in post #14 then a sun spot, would be the draw of electron fast enough to create denser matter within the dark matter reaction crystaledit:sorry my idea did not come across cleari meant the sun spot was the effect ofa small enough clump of impetali crystalwas at a periodic stable state (based on size and equal divisible state [impetali crystal volume = 27 cubic unitsimpetali--->element x 27units]then it would be the process of stripping nuetral state element of electroncausing the formation of molcules to stabalize the outer electron shells of the effected area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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