Meteorites & Alien artefacts

[paigetheoracle]

An argument I've heard that alien artifacts aren't genuine is that they don't contain anything foreign, just earth elements. Well can anybody explain why this logic isn't applied to meteorites as it was a a couple of hundred years ago, to explain why they couldn't have come from outer space i.e. no content that couldn't be found on this planet?:shrug:

[Turtle]

What alien artifacts? :naughty:

[paigetheoracle]

What alien artifacts? :Alien:

 

Those things found at various sites after supposed UFO landings or the famous case of the pancake given to a housewife by aliens. Now you can believe in these or not at your discretion but like UFO crashes, Angel Hair and the metallic, clinker like material (forgotten the right term for it) that fell in some bay in Canada (Very famous and well documented case but that in my feeble state of mind I can't remember, sorry).

 

If you haven't seen this information perhaps you just haven't looked because it didn't interest you enough at the time or since (unlike me). Most UFO sites under history of subject will carry such information.

 

Hope this helps Turtle ('The universe is not only stranger than we know - it is stranger than we can know' Arthur C. Clarke).

[pamela]

hey Paige

Your alien pancake peaked my curiosity, so I investigated.Now there may be more than one account of extraterrestrial chefs, but the one I read about was a gentleman in Wisconsin. The part of the account I find most interesting is that these cats wore turtlenecks. I have to wonder about Turtle's take on this.

[paigetheoracle]

hey Paige

Your alien pancake peaked my curiosity, so I investigated.Now there may be more than one account of extraterrestrial chefs, but the one I read about was a gentleman in Wisconsin. The part of the account I find most interesting is that these cats wore turtlenecks. I have to wonder about Turtle's take on this.

 

Me too - I wouldn't want 'Turtle' sticking his neck out on this one!:Alien:

 

Funny you should mention this particular set of incidents because it apparently follows on from fairy law and gifts given to people in the way of food. Which Jacques Valley, the astronomer mentioned in his first book on the subject that I read - which is I suppose fairy nuff!:bdayhappy_balloons:

[pamela]

well, I don't know much about fairies, but I do know about cooking.

Now these pancakes were made of soy hulls, buckwheat hulls,wheat bran, starch and hydrogenated oil, but no salt. Looks like they were into a good fiber intake, but were not too concerned about their arteries. And why no salt? wonder about it having the same effect as on garden slugs-yikes:eek:

[Theory5]

Those things found at various sites after supposed UFO landings or the famous case of the pancake given to a housewife by aliens. Now you can believe in these or not at your discretion but like UFO crashes, Angel Hair and the metallic, clinker like material (forgotten the right term for it) that fell in some bay in Canada (Very famous and well documented case but that in my feeble state of mind I can't remember, sorry).

 

If you haven't seen this information perhaps you just haven't looked because it didn't interest you enough at the time or since (unlike me). Most UFO sites under history of subject will carry such information.

 

Hope this helps Turtle ('The universe is not only stranger than we know - it is stranger than we can know' Arthur C. Clarke).

 

Its not good to read those magazines from the grocery store while sitting next to the cleaning solvants. :-)

 

I was looking up alien artifacts and I did come across this site Alien Artifacts-UFO Casebook Files

pretty wierd. though I do rember watching something on the history channel about soemthing that looked like alien ships in some old historical paintings. To bad most of this stuff isnt credible. 1/2 the time people do this stuff to get attention or because they belive they were abducted by "UFO's". Ever see that simpsons episode where they discovered a skeleton with wings? They thought it was an angel till they figured out it was a gimmik for a store that just opened. Then the crop circle stuff. Yes, I know its a crop circle, I dont need photographic proof of the circle, I need photographic proof of what CREATED the crop circle.

Then there is the big thing about those triangle shaped "UFO's" ever seen a plane at night in a cloud? triangle lights!

sorry about the rambling.

[Turtle]

Those things found at various sites after supposed UFO landings or the famous case of the pancake given to a housewife by aliens. Now you can believe in these or not at your discretion but like UFO crashes, Angel Hair and the metallic, clinker like material (forgotten the right term for it) that fell in some bay in Canada (Very famous and well documented case but that in my feeble state of mind I can't remember, sorry).

 

If you haven't seen this information perhaps you just haven't looked because it didn't interest you enough at the time or since (unlike me). Most UFO sites under history of subject will carry such information.

 

Hope this helps Turtle ('The universe is not only stranger than we know - it is stranger than we can know' Arthur C. Clarke).

 

Roger all that. Art Bell is supposed to have a piece of 'metal' from the Roswell crash if I recall.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to interject that meteorites do contain isotopes, mixtures of elements, and structures not found on Earth or even in the Solar System. :bdayhappy_balloons: :Alien:

 

Allende meteorite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

...Close examination of the chondrules in 1971, by a team from Case Western Reserve University, revealed tiny black markings, up to 10 trillion per square centimeter, which were absent from the matrix and interpreted as evidence of radiation damage. Similar structures have turned up in lunar basalts but not in their terrestrial equivalent which would have been screened from cosmic radiation by the Earth's atmosphere and geomagnetic field. Thus it appears that the irradiation of the chondrules happened after they had solidified but before the cold accretion of matter that took place during the early stages of formation of the solar system, when the parent meteorite came together.[6]

 

The discovery at California Institute of Technology in 1977 of new forms of the elements calcium, barium and neodymium in the meteorite was believed to show that those elements came from some source outside the early clouds of gas and dust that formed the solar system. This supports the theory that shockwaves from a supernova - the explosion of an aging star - may have triggered the formation of, or contributed to the formation of our solar system. As further evidence, the Caltech group said the meteorite contained Aluminum 26, a rare form of aluminum. This acts as a "clock" on the meteorite, dating the explosion of the supernova to within less than 2 million years before the solar system was formed.[7] Subsequent studies have found isotopic ratios of krypton, xenon, nitrogen and other elements that are also unknown in our solar system. The conclusion, from many studies with similar findings, is that there were a lot of substances in the presolar disc that were introduced as fine "dust" from nearby stars, including novas, supernovas, and red giants. These specks persist to this day in meteorites like Allende, and are known as presolar grains.