TINNY Posted June 21, 2005 Report Posted June 21, 2005 if you assume we evolved from some simple organism that replicated, aren't we just more complex replicators? if the simple organism that we evolved from didn't have much of a purpose besides replicating, what purpose can we have??it is not just physical complexity that evolved. The array of abilities that can be done by an organism also evolved. For example, amoebas can't do much in comparison to fishes. And monkeys can't do as much as humans. The chasm between them is huge. Monkeys don't seem to have symbolic language to think with, other than external influences upon it.Therefore, if I take your postulate, we also have a purpose to further the evolution of ability/will. Most especially is human intellect and consciousness. Tormod 1 Quote
Tormod Posted June 21, 2005 Report Posted June 21, 2005 NEWS FROM THE CUTTING EDGE OF "DNA RESEARCH" :) the story of DNA tells the same story of Adam's children. how we r related and have the same father. the date was given around 60000 years ago. Huh? Sources, please. Homo sapiens By the way, a great although boring read on DNA research is The Molecule Hunt: Archaeology and the Search for Ancient DNABy Martin Jones My edition has 400 pages and not a single illustration, maybe this edition is better. But it is at any rate a great introduction to how ancient DNA is studied to create theories about how humans spread out across the globe. there r caves in south africa that have primitive tools( i mean very primitive)that dates back to 80000 years ago and there no signs of wrightings (i.e. no indication that those people could wright) Writing is not a prerequisite for intelligence and conscious awareness. Quote
niviene Posted June 21, 2005 Report Posted June 21, 2005 NEWS FROM THE CUTTING EDGE OF "DNA RESEARCH" :) the story of DNA tells the same story of Adam's children. how we r related and have the same father. the date was given around 60000 years ago.there r caves in south africa that have primitive tools( i mean very primitive)that dates back to 80000 years ago and there no signs of wrightings (i.e. no indication that those people could wright)Â So you are saying they must write to be conscious beings? The written word was a relatively late form of communication, even though early cave paintings were found around 20,000 years ago. And, there is evidence that we buried our dead 200,000 years ago (they believe with religious ceremony, even)... stone tools were discovered as early as 2.5 million years ago or so, not 80,000 years ago. Where are you getting this information? :) Quote
ldsoftwaresteve Posted June 21, 2005 Report Posted June 21, 2005 Tinny:The array of abilities that can be done by an organism also evolved.Excellent point sir. Tormod:Writing is not a prerequisite for intelligence and conscious awareness.I like this point too. The awareness of awareness is enormously important. It implies that we can work with and change/enhance that ability. Quote
bartock Posted June 21, 2005 Report Posted June 21, 2005 So you are saying they must write to be conscious beings? The written word was a relatively late form of communication, even though early cave paintings were found around 20,000 years ago. And, there is evidence that we buried our dead 200,000 years ago (they believe with religious ceremony, even)... stone tools were discovered as early as 2.5 million years ago or so, not 80,000 years ago. Where are you getting this information? ;)oh ! i forgot to mention that some of great men in history could not read or write but could communicate very effectively.chimps also make tools to take out termites out of ground.how primitive do u think their tools r. Quote
bartock Posted June 21, 2005 Report Posted June 21, 2005 Huh? Sources, please. Homo sapiens By the way, a great although boring read on DNA research is The Molecule Hunt: Archaeology and the Search for Ancient DNABy Martin Jones My edition has 400 pages and not a single illustration, maybe this edition is better. But it is at any rate a great introduction to how ancient DNA is studied to create theories about how humans spread out across the globe.   Writing is not a prerequisite for intelligence and conscious awareness.THE JOURNEY OF MAN:A GENETIC ODYSSEY by SPENCER WELLS ;)also see his paper in september 2003 issue of the American Journal of Human Genetics Quote
emessay Posted June 22, 2005 Report Posted June 22, 2005 Interesting quote :Â 'The awareness of awareness is enormously important'Â Simply like 'we' look through in 'ourselves' in front of mirror glass, and 'we' feel like in WARP 9 in approximately '10exp(-100) meter dimensions and beyond', it means 'a self-replicative consciousness' in front of 'Event Horizon'. Quote
EWright Posted August 1, 2005 Report Posted August 1, 2005 I've heard it said that we exist only to give rise to the next generation of intelligent life; one which is sillicon based and now in its infancy. Quote
infamous Posted August 1, 2005 Report Posted August 1, 2005 Some of us only exist to annoy others with our persistence. Quote
gmacrider Posted August 1, 2005 Report Posted August 1, 2005 I thought our main purpose was to safely deliver our DNA to the next generation. Once that has been done, everything else is gravy. So how do you make good gravy? THAT is a tough question. Quote
Boerseun Posted August 1, 2005 Report Posted August 1, 2005 Mostly to serve as a warning to others. Quote
goku Posted August 9, 2005 Report Posted August 9, 2005 life is short, death is longer. since death is longer, shouldn't everyone be more conserned about it? why do we die? are we not just a bunch of chemical reactions? do the reactions lose intrest and stop reacting? to know the purpose of life you must first understand the reason for death. if an energy is just dispersing, it would naturally take the easiest path.immortallity is the easiest path, it would do away with many needs like reproducing. Quote
Dark Mind Posted August 9, 2005 Author Report Posted August 9, 2005 to know the purpose of life you must first understand the reason for death.Explain your reasoning for this. if an energy is just dispersing, it would naturally take the easiest path.immortallity is the easiest path, it would do away with many needs like reproducing.Prove it. Quote
emessay Posted August 9, 2005 Report Posted August 9, 2005 It means what? Perhaps like this : 1. Our physical body have evoluted naturally from primate-->we're same as species,mortal. 2. Our consciousness coming--> this is 'the Big-Q' = Big big Question and for what ?3. We've observed self-replicative DNA-->species-->Life on Earth4. We've cultured as 'self-replicative consciousness'-->Surviellence Universe&Self-Conscious5. We're only 'tool' in looking 'universe end-start'--> a tool of 'a self replicative universe'.6. So if Shakespeare said 'we' are only puppets, there is nothing wrong.7. Next question is : "'Who played the puppets?" Quote
vnbalakrishna Posted August 9, 2005 Report Posted August 9, 2005 It is not for simply breeding and dying. It is to live together with love and hope; understanding each other and not misguided by false preachers and philosophers who create an herd mentality for their selfish interests and which is today the root cause of violence. All of us are threatened by it because one group has been told that they are the choosen people and others who do not subscribe to their satanic ideology have no right to exist. Let us all come out of this mindset and treat ourselves belonging to the same family of mankind.bala Quote
Qfwfq Posted August 9, 2005 Report Posted August 9, 2005 Some of us only exist to annoy others with our persistence.Was EWright's remark annoying or offensive? Please respect other's thoughts, even if you disagree. Quote
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