Cedars Posted April 17, 2009 Report Posted April 17, 2009 A large volume of these acts that come on the show are a total joke, they have *no* talent, quite often make people laugh and ponder if they are having a joke at everyones expense or not. Sometimes contestants are having a joke (i.e. they know they are terrible), but often you'll get someone that quite frankly, doesn't look like a performer at all (like that lady) and are genuinly on the show to display what they think is top quality talent - but it isn't, it's often so bad it's funny. So... the fact that she seemingly is an awesome singer goes against all that usually happens, it's a surprise and it *does* make us question our presumptions, in a good way. While it did warm my heart, there was an overwhelming sadness that somoene of her talent has been locked away for 47 years because she either looks funny, is shy or never had the chance.This is why I usually dont watch the beginning of the series and wait for the bad acts to be weeded out. But then this example, Susan Boyle, also shows that when our expectations are not met, the crowd stood up and cheered and bravo'd her and emphasized their "wow we were like really wrong" and made up for the skepticism with enthusiasm. Susan Boyle left that stage on top of the world. I have great doubt the cheers and ovations would have been given if she would have been the Cookie cutter good looks Modest mentioned. There would have been no WOW. Quote
freeztar Posted April 17, 2009 Report Posted April 17, 2009 But then this example, Susan Boyle, also shows that when our expectations are not met, the crowd stood up and cheered and bravo'd her and emphasized their "wow we were like really wrong" and made up for the skepticism with enthusiasm. Susan Boyle left that stage on top of the world. I have great doubt the cheers and ovations would have been given if she would have been the Cookie cutter good looks Modest mentioned. There would have been no WOW. Indeed! It seems you would answer "yes" to my last question? --- The link Modest posted was extremely moving. Of course, the music is awesome to begin with, but Paul really blows everyone away.It's different than Susan's crowd reaction though. Maybe it's his serious (nervous) demeanor? :) Quote
Thunderbird Posted April 17, 2009 Author Report Posted April 17, 2009 I showed the clips to a friend last night and she just said "So they can sing, what's the big deal."She had never followed the show,,, so she had no real context. The same thing happens when there is a big discovery in science..... when the general public really does not “get it” because they have not been following along to gain a perspective on the lead up to the discovery. An appreciation of discovering art is the same. We hear great singers all the time, but we forget how rare great talent really is. It re-enchants music by allowing the audience to participate in the process of discovering great talent. freeztar and Cedars 2 Quote
Cedars Posted April 17, 2009 Report Posted April 17, 2009 I'd argue that when our assumptions are challenged so drastically, we often ascribe more significance to such events. Do you agree? In general, yes, but that is a normal reaction to a ground shaking moment, when we have our assumptions challenged drastically. A mind blowing experience. For Susan Boyle and the crowd reaction, I dont think they ascribed more significance to the performance rather it was an expression of sincere surprise and possibly apology, given in the same manner the critique based on appearance prior to her doing what she came to do, sing. The crowd is supposed to go wild when they are moved by a performance. Found this today. Seems Susan may have performed on a charity CD in 1999. Only 1000 copies made. YouTube - Susan Boyle - Cry Me A River - 1999 Recording (From The Scottish Daily Record Newspaper) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI2DxkrgpgQ The article linked is an interesting read also. Quote
Cedars Posted April 17, 2009 Report Posted April 17, 2009 I showed the clips to a friend last night and she just said "So they can sing, what's the big deal."She had never followed the show,,, so she had no real context. The same thing happens when there is a big discovery in science..... when the general public really does not “get it” because they have not been following along to gain a perspective on the lead up to the discovery. An appreciation of discovering art is the same. We hear great singers all the time, but we forget how rare great talent really is. It re-enchants music by allowing the audience to participate in the process of discovering great talent. Whats the big deal? I am always puzzled by reactions like that. I wish I could sing like that. I would never talk again. Everything I said would be in song form. Just like if I could do gymnastics, I would do back flips and tumbles everywhere I went (weather permitting). Quote
Essay Posted April 20, 2009 Report Posted April 20, 2009 Speaking of perspective... good for you Cokie! I was watching ABC's This Week this morning, and was impressed with Cokie as she joined in the discussion of this important topic.Everyone was talking about how humble, etc., that the singer was, but Cokie focused on the judges that she saw in the clip. "I couldn't get over the contrast between her and the judges.I had never seen those people before. ...I have never heard of any of those people.But-- They were Barbie and Ken--I mean they were the most fake looking human beings I have ever seen.And there she was--this totally genuine person--it was just so refreshing."...Good to know that she doesn't watch that show. p.s. ...hope you caught my other transcription, from This Week, of more comical comments--about the environment:http://hypography.com/forums/political-sciences/19251-are-we-responsible-caretakers-of-planet.html#post262036 Quote
Cedars Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 Speaking of perspective... good for you Cokie! OK so we know what cokies opinion is on Susan Boyle/BGT. What is Essays opinion on Susan Boyle? Quote
Essay Posted April 22, 2009 Report Posted April 22, 2009 OK so we know what cokies opinion is on Susan Boyle/BGT. What is Essays opinion on Susan Boyle? I agree with Cokie: Who are these people? Well I saw a clip of the singer on the nightly news, and I see clips of the show on the late-night "talk shows" --so they weren't totally unfamiliar.... But as for the singer, I think she's very good--very strong, capable, and nice sounding.It's sort of hard to tell--with the audience screaming and the cuts to the judges' sparkling eyes and teeth--but many singers and orchestral productions, and even some rock stuff, will have my eyes welling up from the majestic quality of a performance. She was a lot better than all of the warbley, modern-day singers. :) ~ :) Quote
Haech Posted April 30, 2009 Report Posted April 30, 2009 I like the one with the greek river dancing family Quote
Thunderbird Posted August 25, 2009 Author Report Posted August 25, 2009 Another up and comer on Britain's Got talent, I couldn't really hear him very well because the audience was reacting to his stage presents, which was though the roof. YouTube - Danyl Johnson The X Factor Uk 2009 "With A Little Help From My Friends" (HD) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zLkailhsqk Quote
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