stereologist Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 That's about as weird as my favorite tabloid headline: "An alien raped my weed wacker" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigD Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 A belated welcome to hypography, Furchizedek/Norm! One more comment on this. William Sadler was not the "sleeping subject." I'm not sure where that confusion comes from. No offense intended but it's not part of the history. Most "guesses" say that a Willfred Kellogg was the conduit.The confusion come from my misreading of the following, from the wikipedia article “The Urantia Book”:As early as 1911, William S. Sadler and his wife Lena Sadler, physicians in Chicago and well known in the community, were approached by a neighbor who was concerned because she would occasionally find her husband in a deep sleep and breathing abnormally. She reported that she was unable to wake him at these times. The Sadlers came to observe the episodes, and over time, the individual produced verbal communications that claimed to be from "student visitor" spiritual beings.Which clearly states that Willam and Lena Sadler observed, not were either of them, the unnamed “sleeping subject”, and later provides the same guess Furchizedek does, attributed to Martin Gardner, that the relatively unknown Willfred Kellog was the sleeping subject/conduit. Mea maxima culpa / my bad. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemit Posted June 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 That's about as weird as my favorite tabloid headline: "An alien raped my weed wacker" Could you provide a link to that story? You know, the rules require you to provide documentation. --lemit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Didn't that guy invent Corn Flakes as a way to stop sexual urges Kellogg's Corn Flakes! Well I guess he knew his flakes for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Could you provide a link to that story? You know, the rules require you to provide documentation. --lemit :D True true. Fortunately they don't specify who needs must provideth it. A random act of folklore documentation provisioning. (I am not putting lipstick on this pig; it's Chapstick. ) Puerto Vallarta, MexicoA Mexican gardener is living in fear because the space alien that beat him to a pulp and tried to mate with his weed eater returned to his house--and raped his electric broom. "I'll have no peace until that creature is dead," Oscar Diaz, 47, told newsmen. "I still can't figure out why he's torturing me. ... Full Story from an Authoritive Source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Didn't that guy invent Corn Flakes as a way to stop sexual urges Kellogg's Corn Flakes! Well I guess he knew his flakes for sure! No, Wilfred Kellogg did not invent Cornflakes; it was his brother Dr. John Harvey Kellogg that did that. The religion of Dr. John Harvey Kellogg, health pioneerDr. John Harvey Kellogg (February 26, 1852 - December 14, 1943) was a medical doctor in Battle Creek, Michigan. He ran a popular and often groundbreaking sanitarium using holistic methods, with a particular focus on nutrition, enemas and exercise. Today John Kellogg is best known for the invention of the corn flake, which spawned the breakfast cereal industry and revolutionized how people eat in the mornings. The leading cereal company - Kellogg - is named after John Harvey Kellogg's brother W.K. Kellogg, who John hired to develop the cereal concept into a marketable form, and who founded the company. John Harvey Kellogg was a devout Seventh-day Adventist and one of the most prominent figures in the early development of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. John Harvey Kellogg was a contemporary of Ellen G. White (co-founder of Seventh-day Adventism). He was influential in the development of many of the Church's distinctive health and dietary teachings and practices. In about 1906, Dr. John Harvey Kellogg was excommunicated from the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Great posts turtle, I'd rep you if i could! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Great posts turtle, I'd rep you if i could! Gracias Miguello. :) I neglected to mention that Sadler's wife was the daughter of another Kellogg (Smith M. Kellogg) and she was messed up with the pseudoscience of Seventh Day Adventism as well. Lena Sadler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia But wait!! This source says Will Keith Kellogg invented the Cornflake and not Dr. John Harvey Kellogg !! Inventor Will Keith Kellogg BiographyWill Keith Kellogg along with his brother John Harvey Kellogg, developed and promoted eating cereal as healthy breakfast food, especially corn flakes. In 1906 he founded the Battle Creek Toasted Corn Flake Company which later became the Kellogg Company. In 1930 Kellogg established the W. K. Kellogg Foundation. THE STORYRELATED INFOBOOKSVIDEOSWEB SITESDID YOU KNOW? Inventor: Will Keith Kellogg ... Here's the full Monty: http://www.world-destiny.org/birth/ch13R.pdfJohn Harvey Kellogg, of Battle Creek Sanitarium fame, was a full brother to William Keith Kellogg, of breakfast cereal fame. A half brother, Smith Moses Kellogg, was the father of Lena and Anna Bell Kellogg. Emma, a full sister toJohn Harvey and William Keith, married Charles Leonidas Sobeski Kellogg, a Kellogg from another side of the family. Wilfred Custer Kellogg was their son. Emma and Charles were fourth cousins; the grandfathers of Ezekiel Kellogg and Josiah Kellogg were brothers. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemit Posted June 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 This is the story Turtle provided the link to: A SPACE ALIEN RAPED MY ELECTRIC BROOMby Karl Bova --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Puerto Vallarta, MexicoA Mexican gardener is living in fear because the space alien that beat him to a pulp and tried to mate with his weed eater returned to his house--and raped his electric broom. "I'll have no peace until that creature is dead," Oscar Diaz, 47, told newsmen. "I still can't figure out why he's torturing me. "If he wants to mate with tools and appliances he ought to go to a hardware store." The gardener's ordeal began when a bullet-shaped UFO appeared directly in front of his truck on an isolated dirt road last July. As The NEWS reported at the time, Diaz swerved to avoid a collision and skidded into a field. He was still behind the wheel when an extraterrestrial with glassy eyes, reptile-like face and unusually long arms approached his truck. The creature allegedly dragged Diaz out of the cab, beat him up-- then tried to mate with the weed eater he carried in the back of his truck. "I thought I'd seen the last of him until somebody ransacked my house while I was at work on march 5," said the bewildered gardener. "The next morning I heard gasping and grunting noises coming from my closet and when I opened the door I found the alien on top of my electric broom. "He beat me up badly the last time we had a run-in so I didn't interfere. I ran out of the house and called the police on a neighbor's phone." "But by the time they arrived the alien was gone and my electric broom was twisted like a corkscrew." "I know it was the same space alien," he added. "You never forget a face like that." ... [Police say they haven't confirmed this story, but Dias "has nothing to gain by lying."] --http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/alien.htm Thanks, Turtle. As I read the above page, I was thinking I had to get it in even if it didn't belong, but it turns out the punchline makes it germane. In forensics, probably the worst form of pseudoscience is eyewitness testimony. Despite all the documentation that it is the least reliable evidence that can be given--google "eyewitness testimony"--it is still often the most highly regarded testimony in court. It's almost as if we were to continue using techniques from the Spanish Inquisition. Of course, we'd never do that. Well, look at some of the sources anyway. They're not boring, by any measure, and they can be transformational. Despite all the evidence to the contrary, I would allow the testimony in the above story. You know, a face only a mother can love but anybody could definitely remember? --lemit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 The guy that wrote the story about the alien sexual predator with a penchant for tools was interviewed on NPR. Very funny interview. He wrote more funny tales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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