Solve Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 Blue Brain is a project, begun in May 2005, to create a computer simulation of the brain of mammals including the human brain, down to the molecular level. Blue Brain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia So is this computer simulation simulating the brain down to molecular level, or is it leaving out some detail, eg. Microtubules or quantum processing, and are these examples woo woo ideas that I hear some people speak of. Microtubule - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Solve :eek::lol: Quote
CraigD Posted July 13, 2009 Report Posted July 13, 2009 Solve said: Blue Brain is a project, begun in May 2005, to create a computer simulation of the brain of mammals including the human brain, down to the molecular level. Blue Brain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia So is this computer simulation simulating the brain down to molecular level, or is it leaving out some detail, eg. Microtubules or quantum processing,According to the linked wikipedia article, Blue Brain will use the NEURON neuron simulator. As NEURON is essentially a toolkit of cell membrane-simulation tools, its accurate to describe the proposed Blue Brain simulation as “down to the molecular level”, but not “down to the atomic”, or sub-atomic, level, at which quantum effects, such as those involving microtubules speculated to be involved in human thought such people as Stuart Hameroff and Roger Penrose (for a summary, see this wikipedia article section). So it’s leaving out the detail required by possible models hinted at by Hameroff and Penrose. Solve said: and are these examples woo woo ideas that I hear some people speak of. I’d certainly call a simulation of very cell in even a small part of a mammalian brain a realization of a woo woo / ultra-cool idea. Though only the first steps in what’s likely to be a long series of projects, this and similar neurological simulation work promises to provide concrete, reproducible support (if the models fail to behave like actual brains) or refutation (if they do) to questions such as those posed by Penrose and like-minded scientists and philosophers, who name their position such things as “New Mysterianism”. Quote
alexander Posted July 13, 2009 Report Posted July 13, 2009 Not a new idea, not the craziest concept, but certainly Blue Brain seems like a good start to perhaps, in the future a project that can provide valuable insight into the true workings of our brain. Ultra-cool idea, perhaps, perhaps not, but a good one to follow and see where it goes, most certainly I sense a lot of sleepless nights spent trying to figure out models, processes and debugging code :shrug: Quote
alexander Posted July 13, 2009 Report Posted July 13, 2009 Btw, Craid, I'm reading, very interesting Quantum Consciousness I think my brain is starting to glitch from all that, its really interesting, its really waay beyond my understanding of physics (though its always nice to learn new things)... Quote
Theory5 Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 Quote solveThe answer, as always, is 42. :-P I tend to agree with Gödel's theorem ( I think it was his) which states that a system cannot fully understand itself, no matter how hard it tries. I think it currently has something to do with the small numbers of living people willing to be test subjects. :-)As researchers go further and understand more, im sure they will meet other problems as well. Quote
alexander Posted July 21, 2009 Report Posted July 21, 2009 Everybody's always in favor of saving Hitler's brain. But when you put it in the body of a great white shark - uuuh, suddenly you've gone too far. (prof. Hubert J. Farnsworth) I thought we could grow brains now to study them, in fact i'm pretty sure we can :lol: Quote
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