Moontanman Posted December 12, 2009 Report Posted December 12, 2009 Copenhagen climate change summit: The world is COOLING not warming says scientist Peter Taylor ... and we're not prepared Read more: Copenhagen climate change summit: The world is COOLING not warming says scientist Peter Taylor ... and we're not prepared | Mail Online Copenhagen climate change summit: The world is COOLING not warming says scientist Peter Taylor ... and we're not prepared | Mail Online Quote
lemit Posted December 12, 2009 Report Posted December 12, 2009 I find this article impossible to read. Not that it's too technical for me, although it may be for all I know. The barrier is my aforementioned attention span problem coupled with those sidebar photos. What is it we're talking about? Oh yeah, climate scientists. So, is this a peer reviewed journal? If I were a peer, I'd enjoy reviewing it. If I were a reviewer, I'd enjoy peering at it. In fact, I did enjoy peering at it. Why was it we were supposed to look at this? Oh yeah, the pictures! --lemitConfused as a snow-blinded bat. Quote
Essay Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 I find this article impossible to read. This may have been part of the problem. I had similar problems.... "Cycles are involved, not short-term trends, and many respected scientists, especially those in Russia and China, think that a cooling cycle is coming. The AGW brigade have mistaken the current warm period for a trend caused by carbon emissions. But the detailed science says it could be natural and part of a cycle."Read more: Copenhagen climate change summit: The world is COOLING not warming says scientist Peter Taylor ... and we're not prepared | Mail Online0---> I'm not sure what they mean by a "cycle." Are they talking solar, Milankovitch, galactic, or other? If you define the glacial cycles that we've most recently experienced, then yes we should be in a cooling part of the cycle. That's why it's so apparent that something is different. But I'd like to point out that this is a fairly well weasel-worded sentence:"But the detailed science says it could be natural and part of a cycle." C'mon, how much "detail" does it take to decide if something could (or could not) be natural and part of a cycle? Maybe undetailed science could help... or ultra-detailed science? It's quite an amazing soapbox. I found myself agreeing with almost every suggested solution and problem they identified - except for the initial premise. But if cooling is what motivates those desirable, workable, sustainable solutions, then by all means... let's agree to fear global cooling... whatever gets us off the stick. ~ :thumbs_up Quote
BrianG Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 The best experimental test I've seen on [ce]CO2[/ce]'s greenhouse effect seems to indicate doubling [ce]CO2[/ce] would only increase the temperature less than [math]0.5\celsius[/math]. I don't find it difficult to believe, we really can't forecast climate change. All we can say for certain, the climate will warm, cool or stay about the same. I'd also like to claim that when the climate stays about the same, it does so extremely fast. Quote
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