paigetheoracle Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 Pure science is in pursuit of the truth. It doesn't know where it will find it but it keeps on looking - just for the hell of it (Free spirit of adventure). Superstition or big business as it is also known, wants a safe bet and backing for its beliefs. It stifles creation and is only interested in the certainty of the past (old beliefs, not new answers/ experiments). The heroes of today were the villains of yesterday because they rebelled against the established order. Those in societies vanguard, have the satisfaction of being the first into the 'Undiscovered Country' as those in the rear guard, protect the past against the future: Poor but spiritually/ mentally satisfied, versus rich and disgruntled materialists, wallowing in their comfort zone and taking advantage of other peoples gullibility. Revolutionaries face all kinds of conflict, never getting rich or gaining fame - only infamy, except to those generations that follow it, who benefit from such risky business: So let battle commence! 'People do not change, until the pain of staying the same, outweighs the pain to alter' (I-Ching) 'A revolution is a struggle to the death between the future and the past' (Castro) 'Anyone who fights for the future, lives in it today' (Ayn Rand) 'Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds' (Einstein) 'Great men can't be ruled' (Ayn Rand) 'The creator is the man who goes against the current - he who stands alone' (Ayn Rand) 'Those who make peaceful evolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable' (JFK) "It is not the critic who counts, nor the man who points out how the strongman stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. Thecredit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marredby dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes shortagain and again; who knows great enthusiasms, great devotions; who spendshimself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows in the end the triumph ofhigh achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least fails whiledaring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those timid souls whoknow neither victory nor defeat." (Theodore Roosevelt) Quote
BrianG Posted January 8, 2010 Report Posted January 8, 2010 Great experiments are the way to find truth. Something you do, and measurable change, reproducible results tell you that something beyond personal prejudice is at work. Quote
Zythryn Posted January 9, 2010 Report Posted January 9, 2010 I disagree that science is the search for 'truth'.Good science is the search for describing how things work.While an accurate description of how something works is a subset of 'truth' there are also other things people would describe as 'truth' which science does not address. Quote
paigetheoracle Posted January 9, 2010 Author Report Posted January 9, 2010 I disagree that science is the search for 'truth'.Good science is the search for describing how things work.While an accurate description of how something works is a subset of 'truth' there are also other things people would describe as 'truth' which science does not address. Personally I see that as the search for objective truth as opposed to subjective speculation, which is theory, superstition or belief - unchecked against reality, which is truth: If it doesn't work it isn't a true statement about existence (a fact). As for other subjects seeking truth - yes, these are different areas that address the same question but in different fields - does this idea work among people? (Sociology/ psychology/ theology). Is it practical or pie in the sky? It doesn't have to be science to be scientific in approach - the subject matter and tools maybe different but the aim is the same - to find what works as opposed to what doesn't (No likes/ dislikes - just facts as I say).:naughty: Quote
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