Don Blazys Posted April 25, 2010 Author Report Posted April 25, 2010 [math]x[/math]_______[math]\varpi(x)[/math]____[math]B(x)*\left(\frac{\mu-e^{\frac{\pi}{2}}-\alpha}{\mu-e^{\frac{\pi}{2}}}\right)[/math]_____Diff_____%Error10^1____3_______________5_____________________2_____.6666610^2____57______________60____________________3_____.0526310^3____622_____________628___________________6_____.0096410^4____6,357___________6,364__________________7_____.0011010^5____63,889__________63,910_________________21____.0003210^6____639,946_________639,963________________17____.0000265610^7____6,402,325________6,402,362______________37 ____.0000057791510^8____64,032,121_______64,032,273_____________152___.0000023738010^9____640,349,979______640,350,091____________112___.0000001749010^10___6,403,587,409____6,403,587,428___________19____.0000000029710^11___64,036,148,166___64,036,147,870__________-296__-.0000000046210^12___640,362,343,980__640,362,343,856_________-124__-.00000000019 Here, we have the same function, exept with [math]k=e^{\frac{\pi}{2}}[/math] instead of [math]k=2*e[/math].So far, the accuracy is mind blowing, but obviously, we need higher values of [math]\varpi(x)[/math]in order to get a better idea of what the actual value of [math]k[/math] really is. Don. Quote
IDMclean Posted April 25, 2010 Report Posted April 25, 2010 How about [math]e^{\frac{x}{4}}[/math]? Also, enlighten me on what the e and [math]\mu[/math] terms are again? Quote
Don Blazys Posted April 25, 2010 Author Report Posted April 25, 2010 To: IDMclean, Quoting IDMclean: How about [math]e^{\frac{x}{4}}[/math] ? Also, enlighten me on what the e and [math]\mu[/math] terms are again? If [math]k[/math] is a predictable function, then it is some really crazy predictable functionthat is either fluctuating somewhere between 4 and 6...who knows... :shrug:or slooooowwwly descending towards 0...again...who knows... :shrug: Thus, it can't possibly be [math]e^{\frac{x}{4}}[/math] . Right now, it appears that [math]k[/math] is simply some constant whose value issomewhere between 4 and 6. Heck, maybe it's 5. :hyper: The "term" (or multiplier) containing [math]\mu[/math] is a sort of "error term", and [math]\mu[/math] itself is the "proton to electron mass ratio". Don. Quote
IDMclean Posted April 25, 2010 Report Posted April 25, 2010 Is it possible that k is a complex number/has a complex solution? Quote
Pyrotex Posted April 27, 2010 Report Posted April 27, 2010 Is it possible that k is a complex number/has a complex solution?I think k = 2 * e,where e is the base of the natural logarithms.In that case, e is a transcendental number (like pi) and is not the solution of any polynomial. Quote
Rade Posted April 27, 2010 Report Posted April 27, 2010 Please see this paper by T. Y. Thomas (1965):RED SHIFT DISCRETIZATION IN THE EPOCHAL COSMOLOGY — PNAS The first equation by A. G. Wilson related to red shift in clusters of galaxies has the number 137.5. If I am reading this paper correct, this equation of Wilson is related to the mass and radius of the universe. And, Thomas shows that the number 137 is related to two integers m and n that relate to the mass and radius of the universe, such that ~137 = [math]m^{2}n^{2}[/math]. Is it possible that the number 137 derives from the geometry of the universe itself, thus a reason why so many aspects of the physical universe are related to the number 137 ? Perhaps if the Wilson equation was modified to the quantum value of the fine structure constant 137.035.... it may be more predictive of galaxy red shifts ? Just looking for leads. Turtle 1 Quote
Don Blazys Posted April 28, 2010 Author Report Posted April 28, 2010 To: Rade, Quoting Rade: Just looking for leads. In Turtles thread: "Non-Figurate Numbers", Post #180 by Modest relates polygonal numbers and Pascal numbers via "dimensionality". Fascinating stuff! Don. Quote
Don Blazys Posted April 28, 2010 Author Report Posted April 28, 2010 To: Pyrotex, Quoting Pyrotex: I think k = 2 * e. I too am leaning towards that, but only because it "looks good". :dogwalk: :lightning :thumbs_up Do you have a better reason? Don. Quote
Don Blazys Posted May 13, 2010 Author Report Posted May 13, 2010 I updated the counting function on my website: http://donblazys.com/on_polygonal_numbers.pdf Don. Quote
IDMclean Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 If the fine structure constant is irrational, maybe this little article will help with it's calculation: Bailey-Borwein-Plouffe formulaIt's a spigot formula. Since this discovery, many formulas for other irrational constants have been discovered of the general form [math] \alpha = \sum^{\infty}_{k=0}[\frac{1}{b^k}\frac{p(k)}{q(k)}][/math] where α is the constant and p and q are polynomials in integer coefficients and b ≥ 2 is an integer numerical base.Formulas in this form are known as BBP-type formulas.[3] Certain combinations of specific p, q and b result in well-known constants, but there is no systematic algorithm for finding the appropriate combinations and known formulas are discovered through experimental mathematics. Quote
IDMclean Posted June 12, 2010 Report Posted June 12, 2010 If the primes are a subset of the nonfiguratives, does it stand to reason that a counting function for the nonfiguratives would include the counting function for primes?Given that, would this (if it's not already) be of use to us: Logarithmic integral function. Quote
IDMclean Posted June 12, 2010 Report Posted June 12, 2010 [math]\left(\frac{(x-(\alpha*\Pi*e+e)^{-1}*x-\frac{1}{2}*\sqrt{x-(\alpha*\Pi*e+e)^{-1}*x})(\mu-k-\alpha)}{\mu-k}\right)[/math] [math]\left(\frac{(-\mu+k+\alpha)\sqrt{x-(\frac{x}{\alpha*\Pi*e+e})}}{2^2 * \mu * \alpha*\Pi*e - 2^2 * k * \alpha*\Pi*e + 2^2 * e * \mu - 2^2*e*k}\right)[/math] [math]\frac{k\sqrt{x-(\frac{x}{\alpha*\Pi*e+e})}}{(2^2 * \mu * \alpha*\Pi*e)+(2^2 * e * \mu)}[/math][math]+ \frac{\mu\sqrt{x-(\frac{x}{\alpha*\Pi*e+e})}}{(2^2 * k * \alpha*\Pi*e) + (2^2*e*k)} [/math][math]+ \frac{\alpha\sqrt{x-(\frac{x}{\alpha*\Pi*e+e})}}{(2^2 * e * \mu)-(2^2*e*k)}[/math][math]+ \frac{\sqrt{x-(\frac{x}{\alpha*\Pi*e+e})}}{(2^2 * \mu *\Pi*e) - (2^2 * k *\Pi*e) - (2 * \alpha*\Pi*e) - (2 * e)}[/math] That was hairy. I hope I didn't make a mistake. Quote
Don Blazys Posted June 13, 2010 Author Report Posted June 13, 2010 To: IDMclean, If the primes are a subset of the nonfiguratives, does it stand to reason that a counting function for the nonfiguratives would include the counting function for primes?Given that, would this (if it's not already) be of use to us: Logarithmic integral function. x minus the counting function for figuratives (non-trivial polygonals)gives us the counting function for non-figuratives. Then, the counting function for non-figurativesminus the counting function for primes (the "logarithmic integral" Li(x))gives us the counting function for non-figuratives-non-primes. However, for this purpose, I already have a counting function for primesthat appears to be more accurate than Li(x),and is perhaps somewhat more "suitable" in that unlike Li(x), which is mostly an overestimate, it appears to be mostly an underestimate. It also has an advantage over Li(x) in that it has the general form x-C where C is the counting function for composites. The reason that I haven't posted it yet is because it uses four constants,and I'm only "tentatively certain" as to what two of them are.The other two remain a complete mystery, and I can only estimate what their values really are. Quoting IDMclean:That was hairy. I hope I didn't make a mistake. That is indeed a most impressive display of algebraic fireworks! I espesially like the way that you broke it up into four terms,each with the radical in the numerator preceded by the coefficientsk, mu, alpha and (implied) unity. Simply beautiful! I have so little time for posting these days, but I will check it the first chance I get. Don. Quote
Don Blazys Posted June 13, 2010 Author Report Posted June 13, 2010 The problem of closely estimating the number offigurates and non-figurates is almost solved. All we really need is to determine the value of k.Pyrotex and I believe that k=2*e, but the only way to be sure is to determine [math]\varpi(x)[/math]to perhaps [math]\varpi(10^{14})[/math] or so. Donks code in some spare, unused computer would give us that in a matter of months... or, at worst... years. For a short while, the conversation was on buying, renting, or somehow aquiring the use of a "supercomputer" or an "array" of computers, but that conversation quickly "fizzled". That's really a shame, because by the end of this year(or the beginning of the next), a new estimate of the fine structure constant will be released,and I think that it would be great fun to get our own "Hypography estimate of the fine structure constant"using the function in this thread, before that estimate is released. I am not a coder, and have very little time for math these days,but what we have is indeed extraordinarily accurate, and in my opinion,Turtles numbers deserve a counting function that is complete. Don. Quote
IDMclean Posted June 14, 2010 Report Posted June 14, 2010 Wolfram Alpha's analysis of our Math I tried for about two and half hours to get it to count the number of figuratives under x, but I couldn't figure it out. Quote
Don Blazys Posted July 1, 2010 Author Report Posted July 1, 2010 Nvidia Tesla Personal Supercomputer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Quote
Don Blazys Posted July 1, 2010 Author Report Posted July 1, 2010 These "personal supercomputers" cost from $1500.00 to $60,000.00. So, how much would I have to spend in order to calculate w(10^24) in a reasonable amount of time? Don. Quote
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