lemit Posted January 13, 2010 Report Posted January 13, 2010 Are the people who stand in front of a green screen, smile, and wave their arms to indicate upcoming changes in the weather really qualified to write or speak about human-influenced climate change?Hot Air : CJR Quote
Turtle Posted January 14, 2010 Report Posted January 14, 2010 ...But the disagreement, then as now, also came down to the weathercasters themselves, and what they knew—or believed they knew. Meteorology has a deceptively close relationship with climatology: both disciplines study the same general subject, the behavior of the atmosphere, but they ask very different questions about it. Meteorologists live in the short term, the day-to-day forecast. It’s an incredibly hard thing to predict accurately, even with the best models and data; tiny discrepancies matter enormously, and can pile up quickly into giant errors. Given this level of uncertainty in their own work, meteorologist looking at long-range climate questions are predisposed to see a system doomed to terminal unpredictability. But in fact, the basic question of whether rising greenhouse gas emissions will lead to climate change hinges on mostly simple, and predictable, matters of physics. The short-term variations that throw the weathercasters’ forecasts out of whack barely register at all. ... the meteorologists on the multiple tv broadcasts i watch seem to not like/trust their forecasting software. i get that impression from the frequent asides in which they make a diasagreement statement juxtaposing what their experience says vs. the software. i presume they all use different products; they at least have different names. that distrust of modeling software on top of the facts quoted above, and on top of that taking heat from the public for getting things wrong make for a suspicious lot regarding climate change. i recommend reading the entire article leemit posted as it has some other historical insights that pertain. :naughty: Quote
Eclipse Now Posted January 14, 2010 Report Posted January 14, 2010 Yeah, it's a bit sad when people quote climate Denialist weathermen and women who are outside of their profession, and if pushed, end up just repeating the top 26 myths of climate deniers. Hence the role of the specialist in society. We don't go to a brain surgeon to fight our defence in court, or to a cardiologist to deal with our cancer, so why do people go to geologists and weathermen to debunk climate studies? Oh, that's right, because these happen to be the only people selling the misinformation and anti-climate propaganda the Denialist wants to hear... Quote
Michaelangelica Posted January 18, 2010 Report Posted January 18, 2010 A- because they work for Fox? Quote
Theo Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 Yeah, it's a bit sad when people quote climate Denialist weathermen and women who are outside of their profession, and if pushed, end up just repeating the top 26 myths of climate deniers. Hence the role of the specialist in society. We don't go to a brain surgeon to fight our defence in court, or to a cardiologist to deal with our cancer, so why do people go to geologists and weathermen to debunk climate studies? Oh, that's right, because these happen to be the only people selling the misinformation and anti-climate propaganda the Denialist wants to hear... Please. Using the word "denialist" shows that you are an ideologue. And not scientific at all. Man-made global warming is the myth and ClimateGate is proving what many people knew was going on. AGW is a ship that is sinking fast and I am very glad to see it. It is long past due and about time. Now the world can relax and tackle some the real problems the world faces and it isn't "man-made global warming." It never was. Quote
Eclipse Now Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 (yawns, and waits for evidence) Quote
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