Rade Posted April 16, 2010 Report Posted April 16, 2010 Please see this link: First quantum effects seen in visible object - physics-math - 17 March 2010 - New Scientist Very interesting. But, does not the quantum experiment just show the common sense observation that a coin with heads and tails, when flipped at any single "moment in time", will take one observed wavefunction state or the other, but in "reality" both coin wavefunctions coexist as a superposition ? So, when you plot the probability distribution of 1,000,000 coin flips you will get exactly the same distribution reported in this quantum experiment using "off" and "on" motion of the object they studied (think of it as a type of quantum coin)--is that not just common sense ? Clearly, this quantum experiment did not demonstrate that at any "single moment in time" they observed BOTH the quantum transitions of off-->on, or on--->off. This is what it means to be a "moment in time"---that is, there is no time "within the moment". For me, time is that which is intermediate between moments. Moments can exist within time, same as odd and even numbers can be said to exist within the number line. This experiment looked at the probability distribution of many single moments (was the object in off or on state of motion), so, while the experiment is of interest how it was conducted, I really do not see much value to it other than to tell me that probability of coin flips can be extended to situations when something other than a human hand is the source of motion. For me, to say that you have experimentally shown that any object is in two states at the same "moment" in time, first you need to define what you mean by "moment", and for me, this means you must experimentally demonstrate that you have observed two simultaneous "operations on reality". Thus, in this experiment, they would have to show the dynamics "within the moment", show BOTH operations on the wavefunction of the object off-->on AND on--->off to occur "within a single moment". This they clearly did not do--nor perhaps it is even possible given the nature of reality, the nature of how existence relates to time and space. This is my philosophy on the issue--argue either way. I look forward to what others have to say for this thread. Quote
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