Bryce Posted April 20, 2010 Report Posted April 20, 2010 I just wanted feedback from anyone with experience in Physics that can tell me if Mind Uploading is permitted under the laws of Physics. And all the other technologies listed above. PLEASE ANSWER IS THIS CORRECT I NEED TO KNOW FOR SCHOOL PROJECT.?What I believe is that the human brain and it's consciousness can be uploaded onto a digital substrate and then we could live forever in digital form. I believe this because consciousness and our brain is made from ingredients that are found on Earth so why can't consciousness be made by us. And is Artificial Intelligence possible along with Mind Uploading, Time Travel etc. And are all these things possible under the laws of physics. P.S. Mind uploading is when you upload your consciousness onto a computer or something like that. AND CAN YOU PLEASE ESPECIALLY TELL ME IF THESE THINGS POSSIBLE UNDER THE LAWS OF PHYSICS. Quote
IDMclean Posted April 20, 2010 Report Posted April 20, 2010 Bryce, the major thing to define before that question can be answered is "what is a mind?" At current, too my knowledge, physics hasn't the foggiest as to how to define a mind in any pragmatic way. If you mean uploading like neural signals, yes. Electrical signals can be read and "uploaded" into a person simulator. However, is a mind a set of neural signals? How about a network of neurons? What about neuroglia? What about the body's relationship to the mind? There is one place where neurologist and physicist agree: the mind is a slippery thing. Quote
prometheuspan Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 mind downloading;yes. The mind as a holotropic information set can in theory be duplicated and uploaded. No. The exact properties of consciousness can not be duplicated because they are subject to heisenbergs uncertainty principle and other limitations.Yes, because those limitations almost certainly have work arounds. No, because your sunday school teacher would abhor the idea, since you can't copy a soul. Yes, because soul is just a holotropic outcome of node to node communications in a finite but very large set. Teleportation; Yes, because it should prove possible to toss things around in wormholes.No because tossing things around in wormholes destroys them.Yes, because you could build a gravitational bubble to keep them intact.No, because that only works on the quantum scale.Yes, because thats only a current limitation. AI; Yes, because computers can be made more complicated and with more nodes and more communication abilities internally than the human brain.No, because mere memory and processing power is not intelligence.Yes, because eventually computers could learn and model things and become intelligent.No, because they could do that but never quite like us.Yes, because biosynths could duplicate genetic patterns using nanotech. and lastly... permitted under the laws of Physics. I don't know who you have been talking to, but there are no laws of physics. Guidelines, yes, probabilities yes, hard, fast, fixed rules- no. In fact, for any given supposed "law" of physics I can show you special cases where that "law" doesn't apply. Don't reify physics. things tend to behave in a certain manner because the cosmic constants and the scalar fractal holomorph shapes space and time that way, but those aren't laws, just spatial geometries, which can be changed under exotic conditions. sanctus 1 Quote
joekgamer Posted February 4, 2011 Report Posted February 4, 2011 mind downloading;yes. The mind as a holotropic information set can in theory be duplicated and uploaded. No. The exact properties of consciousness can not be duplicated because they are subject to heisenbergs uncertainty principle and other limitations.The mind is subject to Heisenburg's Uncertainty Principle? How? ------- Mind uploading: Yes. Why can't it be possible? --------------- Teleportation: Yes. Once you detect where (in relation to eachother) and what all the atoms are in a human body, then it is a simple matter to break said person down and (for lack of a better word) recreate them elsewhere. -------------- AI: Yes and no. What do you define a mind as? What do you define thinking as? Depending on the answers, it might be impossible, or it might have already happenned. Quote
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