Black holes and the expanding universe

[jason200669]

First of all, i think you guys are soooooo clever lol i feel a little foolish putting an idea here, but unfortuantly i dont have the tools to take it any further, proove/disproove throw it away as absurd.. lol

 

I have no maths knowledge to speak of so i can only try and explain and hope you get the 'gist'

 

An idea,

 

If a black hole creates a dip in the fabric of space/time where is the bulge?

Could it be that a black hole in our universe creates a bulge in the space/time fabric of another universe and vice versa?

 

Infinte Universes, infinate Black holes, infinite bulges?

 

Could these bulges explain the universe expansion?

 

If this is the case, would these bulges be visible? Or because its the fabric of space/time invisible?

 

What would happen if one of these bulges burst?

 

Thanks for time guys

 

Jason

[belovelife]

This a basically an idea we can only theorize about,

but if we take our time-line of our inverse, and then try to relate it

to a multi-verse, then our particular multi-verse in infinity

would be dry similar within itself. Where concious choice

would be the only difference in the universes within our multiverse.

As for a black hole being a door to the infinate-verse

or a portal to other universes within our multiverse, the bend in

space-time would have to be strong enough to:

1: multi-verse travel

bend time till it snaps and reforms

2: infinate-verse travel

be at the point where matter; light, and time all become

the same, and then change

 

so personally think that as you approach a black hole,

starting at the event horizon, space expands, and within that horizon

as matter flows, matter is pure energy, neither proton or electron, but

what was called aether, ( which would allow for massive amounts of energy

to be surrounded by matter closer to the event horizon)

 

so at the core of the black hole, the amount of energy may bond with

the energy of time, and if so, allow travel to different parts of our

infinate-verse, but mabe only within our multiverse.

[jason200669]

Sorry if im being dumb but your post reads to me not as a response but another idea which would be better suited to it own thread?

 

If im wrong, sorry lol

[Eclogite]

Jason I have no idea whether your idea has any merit or not, though I suspect not. Here is the trap I think you may have fallen into. (I recognise it because I have fallen into it myself quite often.) Our understanding of the universe is today embedded in, or expressed by mathematics. Talk of bulges in space time is an attempt to reneder the mathematical description of the unviverse in graphical, methaphorical analogies. These are both simplistic and over-simplified, but they are the only route for the mathematically inept (like the pair of us) to gain some appreciation of what we think the universe is like and how it works. If we then take that analogy and try to develop it as if it was reality we are going to break it very qucikly indeed. I think that's what's happening here.

 

I applaud your imagination, but I suspect it would be m ore productive focused in another direction. (I'll now sit back and wait for someone who knows what they are talking about to tell us your interpretation is surprisingly close to the truth and I am speaking bollocks. :D )

[belovelife]

Sorry if im being dumb but your post reads to me not as a response but another idea which would be better suited to it own thread?

 

If im wrong, sorry lol

 

i was just stating a hypothesis :confused:

we really can't tell until we observe from different distances

ie. get closer

but i thought i related my hypothesis close to the question you asked :D

[modest]

If a black hole creates a dip in the fabric of space/time where is the bulge?

 

You are thinking of the curvature as extrinsic, but it is intrinsic. The most-helpful description between the two that I could find is here:

 

5.4 Manifolds, Geodesics, Curvature, and Local Flatness (General Relativity)

 

Starting at the fourth paragraph.

 

Could it be that a black hole in our universe creates a bulge in the space/time fabric of another universe and vice versa?

 

There are four dimensions in spacetime—three spatial dimensions and one time dimension. A lot of people ask what spacetime curves into and these are the three most frequent answers that I've heard from intelligent and knowledgeable people:

1. Space curves into time and time curves into space
   
2. Spacetime doesn't curve into anything, it is just intrinsically curved
   
3. We have no way of knowing what, if anything, it curves into
   

 

The idea that spacetime is curved into another universe is probably closest to brane cosmology.

 

~modest