C. michael Turner Posted August 22, 2010 Report Posted August 22, 2010 if everything can be explained, every observation, every prediction, in three dimensions then there is no need to fabricate added dimensions that have no need to exist. My understanding explains everything by seeing what we all missed. Seriously I feel like the dog who chased and caught the bumper. Einstein once said, " I am not smarter than everyone else, I just look at the same thing longer." Laurence Krause, a theoretical physicist who was at Case Western university stated to me: "If your right, then the rest of us are wrong and waisted our lives so therefore you can't be right." Well I am right and here is my logic to follow. I use the kiss rule- keep it simple stupid. Issac Newton described the universe as a single frame and produced the math to reflect a single frame universe. He believed time and space were absolutes. Albert Einstein realized that if velosity and acceleration observations allow all the physics laws to be consistant and all these reference frames have the same physics laws then time and space have to be able to be variables. I simple understand the operating system that allows each reference frame to have it's own consistant physics laws and how time and space change when comparing reference frames. Here is the wholly Grail of physics.First let's look at sound, sound is relative between a motorcycle traveling 100 mph and a stationary observer because the motorcycle is generating the sound as the principles of energy transformation from a point of origin and the speed, frequency, and wavelength are fixed from the point of origin. The observer's experience includes, first the forward movement of the motorcycle so the speed, frequency, and wavelength all change relative to the observer. Speed increases, frequency increases and wavelength shortens. So sound is relative. Sound is an action of a process. Could then time and space (spacetime), since it is relative, have the same underlying operating principles?The answer is yes. SpaceTime or time and space are also wave functions of generated waves from all matter, there is a point of origin, energy transfer resulting in a wavenwith a set speed, frequency and wavelength. Time and space are wave functions of matter and energy decay from all quanta of matter and energy at the level of the magnetic field decaying into a monopole gravitational field. Time is the change and space is the resulting density changing volume of a continuous yet overlook process of all matter and energy naturally decaying creating space itself. And now for gravity. Gravity is simply a backaction tension of wavefront formation. In the Huygens Princlple (1600ad-ish) Huygens stated mathmatically that there should be a backaction wavefront formation yet he call it negligible and later it has been mathmatically shown to cancel. But here is the goof, it doesn't just disappear, the wavefront formation translates to a wave tension so it doesn't disappear but converts to a tension from generated waves that is relieved by by bringing the objects generating the waves together, thus gravity. Gravity is a backaction if wavefront formation. Time,space and gravity are three actions of the process of matter and energy decay giving off waves and the waves collide forming a bigger wavefront, since the speed frequency and wavelength don't change before or after wavefront formation then spacially bumping is the only possibility. Newton says that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction so as the waves collide forming a new wavefront the oppisite reaction is the wave tension that we call gravitation, bringing the wave generating objects together to minimize the tension. Example, two construction workers are holding each a 13 foot 2x4 board 12 feet in front of them. The boards represent generated waves. The construction workers boards collide at 45 degree angles and the boards align and travel at a new vector together. The backaction tension of this collision transmits down the boards and the result is that the two construction workers collide. This is gravity, a wavefront backaction from all matter and energy decay. The big bang was a critical monopole energy release of the gravitational wave, space itself yet the unreleased gravitational wave is still bound in matter and energy ands slowly being released, decaying. Time, space and gravity are ACTIONS of a process of matter and energy decay into the gravitational wave. In conclusion, Einstein got the math right but the description wrong matter does not warp time and space but creates time and space via the natural decay into the gravitational wave. Wave front formation creates a backaction tension that creates gravity. Within the distance before wavefront formation, that is where the quantum world takes place, no wave tension, no gravity. This also explains inflation as a clock starting phenomonon, dark energy as F=MxA and dark matter as a function of a new understanding of gravity. The universe is increasing in acceleration and FLATTENING as we are all adding to the overall wavefront formation. So in keeping with the kiss rule, time is the change of magnetic field to the escaping monopole gravitational field, space is the density dependent volume, continously generated and gravity is the back action tension created at the wave front formation by different generated fields combining. Continuous wavefront formation as the universe expands creates localities at each encounter until the entire is shown as an increasingly accelerating and flattening (one giant wavefront) universe. Understanding that wavefront formation by colliding waves creates an equal and oppisite backaction tension that causes gravity from generated gravitational waves is the break through thought that explains how everything works with only three dimensions necessary. Time, space, and gravity are actions of waves generated from all matter, energy and that explains the Wholly Grail of physics including why in the quantum world, before the distance of wavefront formation actions appear gravity free. Dark matter, dark energy, inflation, expansion, flattening , quantum effects, spooky action at a distance, all are explained and fully understood. This is the TOE. The initial wavefront, at the inception of the expansion of the singularity releasing the the gravitation waves and all matter, energy, expanding their own gravitational wave, and those waves colliding creating wavefronts with backactions and those larger and larger wavefronts continuing to combine creating larger and larger wavefronts cause two overall, universL effects from all the energy release and wave front backaction tension or wave synchronization, the universe is increasing in acceleration, constant Force= decreasing Mass x increasing Acceleration and overall wave synchronization causes the universe to flatten. A three dimensional ball is flattening into a disc as it is increasingly accelerating towards the leading wavefront of that disc. In a sense, "What goes up, must come down.", applies to dimensions. If the universe can be explained as having three forces of matter and energy and one by- product force, gravity, then the answer lies in decreasing dimensional freedom -3,2,1 from a sphere to a plane. - C. Michael Turner Quote
C. michael Turner Posted September 4, 2010 Author Report Posted September 4, 2010 if everything can be explained, every observation, every prediction, in three dimensions then there is no need to fabricate added dimensions that have no need to exist. My understanding explains everything by seeing what we all missed. Seriously I feel like the dog who chased and caught the bumper. Einstein once said, " I am not smarter than everyone else, I just look at the same thing longer." Laurence Krause, a theoretical physicist who was at Case Western university stated to me: "If your right, then the rest of us are wrong and waisted our lives so therefore you can't be right." Well I am right and here is my logic to follow. I use the kiss rule- keep it simple stupid. Issac Newton described the universe as a single frame and produced the math to reflect a single frame universe. He believed time and space were absolutes. Albert Einstein realized that if velosity and acceleration observations allow all the physics laws to be consistant and all these reference frames have the same physics laws then time and space have to be able to be variables. I simple understand the operating system that allows each reference frame to have it's own consistant physics laws and how time and space change when comparing reference frames. Here is the wholly Grail of physics.First let's look at sound, sound is relative between a motorcycle traveling 100 mph and a stationary observer because the motorcycle is generating the sound as the principles of energy transformation from a point of origin and the speed, frequency, and wavelength are fixed from the point of origin. The observer's experience includes, first the forward movement of the motorcycle so the speed, frequency, and wavelength all change relative to the observer. Speed increases, frequency increases and wavelength shortens. So sound is relative. Sound is an action of a process. Could then time and space (spacetime), since it is relative, have the same underlying operating principles?The answer is yes. SpaceTime or time and space are also wave functions of generated waves from all matter, there is a point of origin, energy transfer resulting in a wavenwith a set speed, frequency and wavelength. Time and space are wave functions of matter and energy decay from all quanta of matter and energy at the level of the magnetic field decaying into a monopole gravitational field. Time is the change and space is the resulting density changing volume of a continuous yet overlook process of all matter and energy naturally decaying creating space itself. And now for gravity. Gravity is simply a backaction tension of wavefront formation. In the Huygens Princlple (1600ad-ish) Huygens stated mathmatically that there should be a backaction wavefront formation yet he call it negligible and later it has been mathmatically shown to cancel. But here is the goof, it doesn't just disappear, the wavefront formation translates to a wave tension so it doesn't disappear but converts to a tension from generated waves that is relieved by by bringing the objects generating the waves together, thus gravity. Gravity is a backaction if wavefront formation. Time,space and gravity are three actions of the process of matter and energy decay giving off waves and the waves collide forming a bigger wavefront, since the speed frequency and wavelength don't change before or after wavefront formation then spacially bumping is the only possibility. Newton says that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction so as the waves collide forming a new wavefront the oppisite reaction is the wave tension that we call gravitation, bringing the wave generating objects together to minimize the tension. Example, two construction workers are holding each a 13 foot 2x4 board 12 feet in front of them. The boards represent generated waves. The construction workers boards collide at 45 degree angles and the boards align and travel at a new vector together. The backaction tension of this collision transmits down the boards and the result is that the two construction workers collide. This is gravity, a wavefront backaction from all matter and energy decay. The big bang was a critical monopole energy release of the gravitational wave, space itself yet the unreleased gravitational wave is still bound in matter and energy ands slowly being released, decaying. Time, space and gravity are ACTIONS of a process of matter and energy decay into the gravitational wave. In conclusion, Einstein got the math right but the description wrong matter does not warp time and space but creates time and space via the natural decay into the gravitational wave. Wave front formation creates a backaction tension that creates gravity. Within the distance before wavefront formation, that is where the quantum world takes place, no wave tension, no gravity. This also explains inflation as a clock starting phenomonon, dark energy as F=MxA and dark matter as a function of a new understanding of gravity. The universe is increasing in acceleration and FLATTENING as we are all adding to the overall wavefront formation. So in keeping with the kiss rule, time is the change of magnetic field to the escaping monopole gravitational field, space is the density dependent volume, continously generated and gravity is the back action tension created at the wave front formation by different generated fields combining. Continuous wavefront formation as the universe expands creates localities at each encounter until the entire is shown as an increasingly accelerating and flattening (one giant wavefront) universe. Understanding that wavefront formation by colliding waves creates an equal and oppisite backaction tension that causes gravity from generated gravitational waves is the break through thought that explains how everything works with only three dimensions necessary. Time, space, and gravity are actions of waves generated from all matter, energy and that explains the Wholly Grail of physics including why in the quantum world, before the distance of wavefront formation actions appear gravity free. Dark matter, dark energy, inflation, expansion, flattening , quantum effects, spooky action at a distance, all are explained and fully understood. This is the TOE. The initial wavefront, at the inception of the expansion of the singularity releasing the the gravitation waves and all matter, energy, expanding their own gravitational wave, and those waves colliding creating wavefronts with backactions and those larger and larger wavefronts continuing to combine creating larger and larger wavefronts cause two overall, universL effects from all the energy release and wave front backaction tension or wave synchronization, the universe is increasing in acceleration, constant Force= decreasing Mass x increasing Acceleration and overall wave synchronization causes the universe to flatten. A three dimensional ball is flattening into a disc as it is increasingly accelerating towards the leading wavefront of that disc. In a sense, "What goes up, must come down.", applies to dimensions. If the universe can be explained as having three forces of matter and energy and one by- product force, gravity, then the answer lies in decreasing dimensional freedom -3,2,1 from a sphere to a plane. - C. Michael Turner Interesting how I have explained the mystery, the mechanism of how the universe works in three dimensions with two fundamental processes explained and time, space and gravity are actions of generated wavea and wave front formations tensions and no comments? One, time and space are actions of a process of all quanta of matter, energy decay into the gravitational wave. Time is the change of matter to the gravitational wave and space is the density dependent volume. Two, Gravity is the resulting action of gravitational waves colliding to form wavefronts and with the wave fronts creating a backaction tension that decreases by the sources of the generated waves comming together to decrease the tension. So I have informed, explained the holy Grail of physics, it is what everyone is searching for and it is so easy to understand. Yet no comments? I truly am dumbfounded, that when given the answer, a clear and concise understanding, to questions that mankind has asked from the beginning of thought everyone would rather stay in the dark than use their GOD given brain and realize how the universe is run, it's simple, it's eloquent, and it has been shown over and over with the observations and a 1993 Nobel prize and the Mary behind the Huygen's Principle. One concept - matter decays to the smallest thing, the gravitational wave. Two processes- 1. Each quanta of matter decays into a wave.2. Wave continously emitted from differing sources combine to form wavefronts and action of waves forming bigger and bigger wavefronts create an opposite reaction, a wavefront backaction tension of wavefront formation that forces the sources generating the waves to come together along the lines of least tension. Inside and before the wavefront formation, before frequency alignment, the gravity free quantum world exists. Three actions1. Time- change from matter, energy, to the gravitational wave.2. Space- the continuously generated and density dependent, wavefront forming back action tension of the generated gravitational wave.3. Gravity- is the process of fitting the waves being generated together, aligning the combing wavefronts, and reducing the tension by bringing all the sources generating the gravitational waves in plane to minimize the tension. One process- three actions in one universe that's three dimensional, and Stephen Hawkin imagines a universe with out God, what a kidder..Together in the understanding with God' Bless,- C. Michael Turner Quote
C. michael Turner Posted September 5, 2010 Author Report Posted September 5, 2010 Interesting how I have explained the mystery, the mechanism of how the universe works in three dimensions with two fundamental processes explained and time, space and gravity are actions of generated wavea and wave front formations tensions and no comments? One, time and space are actions of a process of all quanta of matter, energy decay into the gravitational wave. Time is the change of matter to the gravitational wave and space is the density dependent volume. Two, Gravity is the resulting action of gravitational waves colliding to form wavefronts and with the wave fronts creating a backaction tension that decreases by the sources of the generated waves comming together to decrease the tension. So I have informed, explained the holy Grail of physics, it is what everyone is searching for and it is so easy to understand. Yet no comments? I truly am dumbfounded, that when given the answer, a clear and concise understanding, to questions that mankind has asked from the beginning of thought everyone would rather stay in the dark than use their GOD given brain and realize how the universe is run, it's simple, it's eloquent, and it has been shown over and over with the observations and a 1993 Nobel prize and the Mary behind the Huygen's Principle. One concept - matter decays to the smallest thing, the gravitational wave. Two processes- 1. Each quanta of matter decays into a wave.2. Wave continously emitted from differing sources combine to form wavefronts and action of waves forming bigger and bigger wavefronts create an opposite reaction, a wavefront backaction tension of wavefront formation that forces the sources generating the waves to come together along the lines of least tension. Inside and before the wavefront formation, before frequency alignment, the gravity free quantum world exists. Three actions1. Time- CHANGE from matter, energy, to the gravitational wave.2. Space- VOLUME, the continuously generated VOLUME and density dependent, wavefront forming back action tension of the generated gravitational wave.3. Gravity- is the TENSION REDUCTION process of fitting the waves being generated from all matter together, aligning the combing wavefronts, and reducing the tension by bringing all the sources generating the gravitational waves in plane to minimize the tension of the entire process of wavefront formation. One process- three actions in one universe that's three dimensional, and Stephen Hawkin imagines a universe with out God, what a kidder..Together in understanding with God's Blessing,- C. Michael Turner Quote
CraigD Posted September 5, 2010 Report Posted September 5, 2010 Welcome to hypography, C. Michael! ;)So I have informed, explained the holy Grail of physics, it is what everyone is searching for and it is so easy to understand. Yet no comments? I truly am dumbfounded, that when given the answer, a clear and concise understanding, to questions that mankind has asked from the beginning of thought everyone would rather stay in the dark than use their GOD given brain and realize how the universe is run, it's simple, it's eloquent, and it has been shown over and over with the observations and a 1993 Nobel prize and the Mary behind the Huygen's Principle. C. Michael, posts like yours are common on science forums like ours. They rarely result in enjoyable or enlightening discussions, so are often ignored. You write a lot in a sort of flow-of-consciousness style that’s I don’t think, were I to reply in kind, would make for a good thread, so let’s back down a bit from the “holy grail” (I’d avoid “wholly grail”, as it’s either a diction error, or an incongruous pun) wording, and focus just on one assertion. Before starting, it’s important for us (or at least for me) to know a specific consequences of your KISS approach to physics: do you believe that all particles are actual (ie: in classical physics) or also that some are virtual (ie: in quantum mechanics)?:) Quote
C. michael Turner Posted September 5, 2010 Author Report Posted September 5, 2010 Welcome to hypography, C. Michael! ;) C. Michael, posts like yours are common on science forums like ours. They rarely result in enjoyable or enlightening discussions, so are often ignored. You write a lot in a sort of flow-of-consciousness style that’s I don’t think, were I to reply in kind, would make for a good thread, so let’s back down a bit from the “holy grail” (I’d avoid “wholly grail”, as it’s either a diction error, or an incongruous pun) wording, and focus just on one assertion. Before starting, it’s important for us (or at least for me) to know a specific consequences of your KISS approach to physics: do you believe that all particles are actual (ie: in classical physics) or also that some are virtual (ie: in quantum mechanics)?:)Theory of Everything pun it is, "Wholly Grail batman". Your right and I am on a different plane. I look at observations from the standpoint of operating systems not real or virtual particles. Your training and mine have narrowed your choices and sometimes the answers are eliminated by the very training that we get to solve the problems in the first place. I don't believe in pretend, virtual, nothing I believe in something, not classical but practical. I believe that the underlying operating system of the universe is the breakdown of matter and energy to space itself and the wave tension created by wavefront formation, a feedback system following Newton's law that holds everything together during this process. Am I a space case, absolutely, I just nailed it and can't believe that it isn't common knowledge because it is too easy. Check out two things to confirm what I say has merrit.1). Look at the 1993 Nobel prize in physics given for indirect gravitational wave detection from energy loss of rotating binary stars. 2). Convince yourself that back action of wave front formation is true. Take two ping pong balls and drop then from six feet and 1/4 inch apart on to first a hard surface then still water. First time no wave formation and no backaction. Second time ripples form and the ping pong balls bounce and touch. This is embarrassingly easy to deeply appreciate. Quote
FrankM Posted September 5, 2010 Report Posted September 5, 2010 Theory of Everything pun it is, "Wholly Grail batman". Your right and I am on a different plane. I look at observations from the standpoint of operating systems not real or virtual particles. Your training and mine have narrowed your choices and sometimes the answers are eliminated by the very training that we get to solve the problems in the first place. I don't believe in pretend, virtual, nothing I believe in something, not classical but practical. I believe that the underlying operating system of the universe is the breakdown of matter and energy to space itself and the wave tension created by wavefront formation, a feedback system following Newton's law that holds everything together during this process. Am I a space case, absolutely, I just nailed it and can't believe that it isn't common knowledge because it is too easy. Check out two things to confirm what I say has merrit.1). Look at the 1993 Nobel prize in physics given for indirect gravitational wave detection from energy loss of rotating binary stars. 2). Convince yourself that back action of wave front formation is true. Take two ping pong balls and drop then from six feet and 1/4 inch apart on to first a hard surface then still water. First time no wave formation and no backaction. Second time ripples form and the ping pong balls bounce and touch. This is embarrassingly easy to deeply appreciate. Your ping pong balls are interfacing with two different mediums, one not solid and one liquid. Two close objects forcing their way into water will create a displacement in the fluid that will result in the two objects being drawn together. This problem is faced everyday by large boats that travel side by side, the actual fluid velocity between the two objects will be greater than the velocity of the boats, and they get drawn together; good sailors know they have to keep a constant skew in their steering away from the actual boat path when they are traveling side by side with another boat at close quarters. Of course your ping pong balls will touch, the vector of their "backaction" was altered by the fluid displacement Quote
C. michael Turner Posted September 5, 2010 Author Report Posted September 5, 2010 Your ping pong balls are interfacing with two different mediums, one not solid and one liquid. Two close objects forcing their way into water will create a displacement in the fluid that will result in the two objects being drawn together. This problem is faced everyday by large boats that travel side by side, the actual fluid velocity between the two objects will be greater than the velocity of the boats, and they get drawn together; good sailors know they have to keep a constant skew in their steering away from the actual boat path when they are traveling side by side with another boat at close quarters. Of course your ping pong balls will touch, the vector of their "backaction" was altered by the fluid displacement So true yet the underlying principles are still correct. It is a form of energy displacement that is the operating system. Taking surface area away by creating two submerged balls (specific gravity =1) transferring energy in identical generated waves seems to have the same result but I have some more work to do. Just vibrating on the surface is a no brainer same result, same argument but even the Huygens principle mathmatically predicts there be a backaction. And it looks to me there is no question. Now if marhmatically the back acrion waves cancel and the surface displacement is not an issue, eliminated, and the submerged wave creating masses are coming together then wave tension is understandable. Agree? Quote
FrankM Posted September 5, 2010 Report Posted September 5, 2010 So true yet the underlying principles are still correct. It is a form of energy displacement that is the operating system. Taking surface area away by creating two submerged balls (specific gravity =1) transferring energy in identical generated waves seems to have the same result but I have some more work to do. Just vibrating on the surface is a no brainer same result, same argument but even the Huygens principle mathmatically predicts there be a backaction. And it looks to me there is no question. Now if marhmatically the back acrion waves cancel and the surface displacement is not an issue, eliminated, and the submerged wave creating masses are coming together then wave tension is understandable. Agree? The Bernoulli effect is the name for the action where two moving objects, that are close together, will be drawn together when there is a fluid between them. Bernoulli Effect: states that the pressure of a fluid (liguid or gas), decreases as the fluid (liquid or gas), flows faster. The same action will be observed if the objects are stationary and the fluid is moving between them. If you dropped the ping pong balls from enough height they would have come together before they hit the water. Quote
C. michael Turner Posted September 5, 2010 Author Report Posted September 5, 2010 The Bernoulli effect is the name for the action where two moving objects, that are close together, will be drawn together when there is a fluid between them. Bernoulli Effect: states that the pressure of a fluid (liguid or gas), decreases as the fluid (liquid or gas), flows faster. The same action will be observed if the objects are stationary and the fluid is moving between them. If you dropped the ping pong balls from enough height they would have come together before they hit the water. Yes, unless a vacuum is used but then gravity between the objects would eventually bring the ping pong balls together als, because the underlying operating systems have, in common, the same underlying principles. Pressure is to tension as electricity is to______. Magnetism. Two sides of the same coin. Bernoulli Principle is a principle because it is not complete otherwise it would be a law. Huygens Principle is a principle also because it is incomplete. Wave tension is the missing understanding in both that shows the underlying operating system at work. Did you not know that I have already would have stopped along time ago if saying the words Bernoulli Effect had any real meaning? It's the underlying operating system that I am interested in and how it then builds to creates effects like Bernoulli Effect or the Huygens principle or how the underlying operating system can make time and space relative or how the universe is increasing in acceleration. This is what I have come to conceptually understand. The very nature of the process that runs the entire show and how everything single thing has to fit for it to be right. Quote
C. michael Turner Posted September 5, 2010 Author Report Posted September 5, 2010 Yes, unless a vacuum is used but then gravity between the objects would eventually bring the ping pong balls together als, because the underlying operating systems have, in common, the same underlying principles. Pressure is to tension as electricity is to______. Magnetism. Two sides of the same coin. Bernoulli Principle is a principle because it is not complete otherwise it would be a law. Huygens Principle is a principle also because it is incomplete. Wave tension is the missing understanding in both that shows the underlying operating system at work. Did you not know that I have already would have stopped along time ago if saying the words Bernoulli Effect had any real meaning? It's the underlying operating system that I am interested in and how it then builds to creates effects like Bernoulli Effect or the Huygens principle or how the underlying operating system can make time and space relative or how the universe is increasing in acceleration. This is what I have come to conceptually understand. The very nature of the process that runs the entire show and how everything single thing has to fit for it to be right. Maybe I am approaching this all wrong. Here is another way to look at the universe. From quantum mechanics, to the Bernoulli Effect, to gravity, to strong weak and electromagnetism to inflation to increasing acceleration to time dialation to space contraction the universe operates consistently as far as we observed. There must be an underlying operating system that allows the universe to be the way it is and if so then that underlying operating system if discovered has to explain all that we think we see. I am just boiling down the mix of operating systems to eliminate what doesn't work and state what does and two fundamental concepts explain everything. 1.) matter decays into a wave 2.) wave combine to from wavefronts and a backaction tension is created following "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" This simple "kiss" concept fully thought out explains everything. And that is just the beginning- C. Michael Turner Quote
C. michael Turner Posted September 5, 2010 Author Report Posted September 5, 2010 Think about how magnetic fields align, forming a dipole wavefront, bringing two magnetics together, now think about a monopole wave forming a wavefront, sound or light when they only interact with themselves, imagine the same fundamental process force that brings the magnetics together is at work, alignment though a decrease in lines of tension but to a smaller degree because with gravity there is a radiating monopole wave alignng with other radiating monopole waves creating a tension that is minimized by the decreasing space between objects as the alignment progresses as with magnets. This is the mechanism of gravitation. Quote
CraigD Posted September 7, 2010 Report Posted September 7, 2010 Your training and mine have narrowed your choices and sometimes the answers are eliminated by the very training that we get to solve the problems in the first place.It almost always, in my experience, helps if people know each others history – education, training, etc. Mine’s modest and varied, a slow drift from humanities (ie: wanting to be a fiction writer) to fine arts (wanting to be a manga ka) into an eventual degree in math, along the way using computers so much that I became, not a professional math or science academic, but a computer programmer. Because I had most of the courses I needed for my math degree before I even became a math major, I had lots of freedom to chose classes, so took all the undergrad physics classes available, so got a decent into to modern physics as it was taught in the early 1980. I went to a good high school, so already had a pretty sound education in classical physics. Since then, I’ve tried to keep up with the literature, as well as an amateur like I can. What’s your story, C. Michael? I don't believe in pretend, virtual, nothing I believe in something, not classical but practical.In particle physics, virtual doesn’t mean pretend or nothing, it means not observable by direct interaction, even in principle. For those of us who wrangle with it other than via some mathematical formalism – and for those who do, when they’re imagining, not being mathematically formal – it’s a difficult, subtle, but centrally important idea. I don’t precisely understand the distinction between classical and practical you draw, C Michael – usually, classical physics is practical when dealing with macroscopic bodies, quantum mechanics practical when dealing with very small ones. However, I think I can guess from the gist of your words enough about your worldview to better understand what you’re imagining for an explanation – a theory – of gravity. You seem to be proposing that “matter and energy decay”, producing waves in some medium, which cause the attractive force of gravity. The first and least controversial prediction of your theory appears to be that matter involved in gravitation interaction decays, which I guess means precisely that it’s mass decreases. A good thing for you to do would be to predict precisely the rate at which the mass of a specific body decreases according to your theory, and whether it depends its gravitational interactions with other bodies. Does, for example, the mass of a body decrease regardless of what bodies are near it? Does it decrease if no work results from the interaction (ie if another body is in circular orbit around it)? Or only if work results?:blink: JMJones0424 1 Quote
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C. michael Turner Posted September 8, 2010 Author Report Posted September 8, 2010 It almost always, in my experience, helps if people know each others history – education, training, etc. Mine’s modest and varied, a slow drift from humanities (ie: wanting to be a fiction writer) to fine arts (wanting to be a manga ka) into an eventual degree in math, along the way using computers so much that I became, not a professional math or science academic, but a computer programmer. Because I had most of the courses I needed for my math degree before I even became a math major, I had lots of freedom to chose classes, so took all the undergrad physics classes available, so got a decent into to modern physics as it was taught in the early 1980. I went to a good high school, so already had a pretty sound education in classical physics. Since then, I’ve tried to keep up with the literature, as well as an amateur like I can. What’s your story, C. Michael? In particle physics, virtual doesn’t mean pretend or nothing, it means not observable by direct interaction, even in principle. For those of us who wrangle with it other than via some mathematical formalism – and for those who do, when they’re imagining, not being mathematically formal – it’s a difficult, subtle, but centrally important idea. I don’t precisely understand the distinction between classical and practical you draw, C Michael – usually, classical physics is practical when dealing with macroscopic bodies, quantum mechanics practical when dealing with very small ones. However, I think I can guess from the gist of your words enough about your worldview to better understand what you’re imagining for an explanation – a theory – of gravity. You seem to be proposing that “matter and energy decay”, producing waves in some medium, which cause the attractive force of gravity. The first and least controversial prediction of your theory appears to be that matter involved in gravitation interaction decays, which I guess means precisely that it’s mass decreases. A good thing for you to do would be to predict precisely the rate at which the mass of a specific body decreases according to your theory, and whether it depends its gravitational interactions with other bodies. Does, for example, the mass of a body decrease regardless of what bodies are near it? Does it decrease if no work results from the interaction (ie if another body is in circular orbit around it)? Or only if work results?:blink:Hi there Craig D, Sorry it took a while to get back to you. First, virtual particles- the concept of massless particles having borrowed mass is just right in a gut feeling way. So I think there is, somewhere out there a better way to explain how energy gets it panties in a bunch. I was just being retardedly simple in my statement before. My background, stand up comedy in my dreams, in reality I graduated from the University of California, Irvine with a degree in Biological Sciences, I graduated from the University of Illinois with a Degree of Doctor in Dental Surgery. I live in Florida. I have been studying physics for about 25 years on my own and have pieced together the logical mechanism that creates the actions of time, space and gravity. High school and college introduced me to physics and the wonders of the universe but to get to the next level in education, the criteria is GPA, not understanding so I put the contradictions that I clearly saw but did not have time to think about on hold while I created a well funded career. The last book I recently read was call Wave phenomenon, it covers what is known very well. I, on the other hand, I go beyond and understand what is not yet known. I say this not out of ego but purely out of very hard work placing together all that is known and how it fits together through observations and experiments of the giants before me. I stand on the shoulders of the ones that stood on the shoulders of the greatest minds of all time. Now, your questions make invalid assumptions about the flow of the universe. So instead of directly clearing up each wrong turn. I will give you a VERY General overview. Let me start with a question that I had asked myself a long time ago. How can time always flow with out a rate change in our own reference frame but when comparing reference frames, acceleration,'increase mass, etc. time can slow down or speed up depending upon which side of the reference frame fence you are on? Is there a mechanism that can be understood that makes this possible? What it the concept we call time? The big bang was a mass to energy conversion of bound, trapped waves, gravitons, creating space itself. As a fusion bomb gives off large amounts of radiation left over material naturally slowly decays giving off radiation so to all mass and energy slowly still decay from the point of the forces being created, strong, weak and electromagnetic naturally creating more space via the release of the gravitational wave, (fields). So the medium, created at the singularity form change is continuously added to by each piece of matter and energy. As space increase the overall potential energy in the universe decreases. The universe has an ingenious way to keep homeostasis. Quanta or packets of energy are retained and released and the background radiation is the large soup container to fill the void so that your soup bowl is always full. What happens to the evaporation rate of a lake of water in 90'degree tempature and 50% humidity verses 95% humidity? And if that lake had spring feeding into it, could the overall mass of the lake effect the rate of the spring entering the lake? The overall clock of the time we measure is based on this process. Individual Time is change from matter and energy into a wave with set speed, frequency and wavelength from your own being. Relative time is the slowing of the decay process due to your wave release relative to your surroundings as the relative evaporation rate of the lake is influenced by the relative humidity. So you can change the density of space by moving closer to a more massive object or accelerating within that space. I hope you are getting the idea that matter doesn't warp time and space, Matter, energy, creates time and space as a point of origin energy transfer into the gravitational wave with a set speed, frequency, and wavelength but the rate of release has factors that influence overall time for that specific frame. And that one my friend involves the rest of the story for another time. So in answering your question, the change (in increase) of space = the change (in decrease) of overall matter run by the continious process of density dependent natural decay via release of bound matter to unbound gravitational wave. It is the fundamental process that runs the framework actions of universe. Time and space are actions of this process. Spacetime is A VERB - C. Michael Turner Quote
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