Infinit Posted September 9, 2010 Report Posted September 9, 2010 Hello All, I'm total layman in particle physics or in physics at all, I'm a dreamer for near SCI-FI future :) However I'm thinking what will be the practical appliance of Higgs after we find it. Will we be able to control the field and control the gravity? The answer Higgs is so important because will prove our theory somehow is not satisfying to me. Best, Quote
Tormod Posted September 10, 2010 Report Posted September 10, 2010 But that IS an important thing. If the Higgs boson is found, it will be a watershed in the standard model of particle physics. Not everything has practical applications. But I'm sure Steve Jobs will come up with an iPod Quantum based on Higgs bosons. :D Quote
Vox Posted September 10, 2010 Report Posted September 10, 2010 Hello All, I'm total layman in particle physics or in physics at all, I'm a dreamer for near SCI-FI future :) However I'm thinking what will be the practical appliance of Higgs after we find it. Will we be able to control the field and control the gravity? The answer Higgs is so important because will prove our theory somehow is not satisfying to me. Best, Here is rather interesting presentation, "Theory of everything", Higgs included Another presentation from 2008 Quote
Infinit Posted September 15, 2010 Author Report Posted September 15, 2010 Sweet. Thank you, I hope that we will prove this :) and after let Steve do the Job :) Best, Quote
Little Bang Posted September 23, 2010 Report Posted September 23, 2010 What if we don't find the Higgs? Quote
Erasmus00 Posted September 23, 2010 Report Posted September 23, 2010 What if we don't find the Higgs? Then we'll find something else. I would honestly consider finding a standard model higgs and nothing else I worst case scenario. Quote
sanctus Posted September 23, 2010 Report Posted September 23, 2010 Infinit, strange that no one got you on that yet, in your first post The answer Higgs is so important because will prove our theory Nothing ever proves a theory at the most it just doesn't falsify it. So if the Higgs is experimentally found it does not mean the standard model is right, it just means it is by all the experiments made so far not proven wrong. Personally, I think if LHC finds or not the Higgs it is in both cases really interesting, because if found the standard model will have withstood another test and will get more precise and if not found it implies that we have to find a new model, which is always interesting. Quote
Little Bang Posted September 23, 2010 Report Posted September 23, 2010 Can the standard model explain the angle of 104.45 degrees that the two hydrogen atoms make with oxygen? Shouldn't we think that if the standard models proton and neutron description is accurate it should be able to build a model of the oxygen atom and predict that angle? Quote
Erasmus00 Posted September 23, 2010 Report Posted September 23, 2010 Can the standard model explain the angle of 104.45 degrees that the two hydrogen atoms make with oxygen? Shouldn't we think that if the standard models proton and neutron description is accurate it should be able to build a model of the oxygen atom and predict that angle? From the standard model we can make the necessary approximations to get the standard schroedinger equation. A molecule is a rather complicated system, so we can make some further simplification (i.e. only the valence electrons need to be considered, etc). Such an approach can allow someone to numerically predict the bond angle of water. Like most problems, starting from the standard model and trying to solve the problem in full is probably impossible- there are too many complications. Its better to make simplifying instructions and work from there. Quote
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