phillip1882 Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 so as i said i expect the calculation to take 58 days, i thought I'd post my daily log here.an hour and a half in and i can confirm donk's calculation for 10^10.i could have started at where donk left off but i want to make sure my numbers line up, especially when i get to around where donk left off.(expected time to get to 10^12, 6.25 days.) freeztar, Turtle and modest 3 Quote
freeztar Posted January 13, 2011 Report Posted January 13, 2011 Apparently, no one wants to admit to the coolness of this. Or...It's misunderstood.In any case, thumbs up here! :thumbs_up Quote
phillip1882 Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Posted January 13, 2011 thanks freeztar.12 hours in and i'm a little over half way to 10^11. i'm storing every million count to a file which has now grown to be 1.2 MB in size. Quote
Don Blazys Posted January 14, 2011 Report Posted January 14, 2011 Quoting Freeztar:Apparently, no one wants to admit to the coolness of this. Or...It's misunderstood. In any case, thumbs up here! Your support is much appreciated Freeztar! But to be fair, we must also remember that some Hypographersput in a lot of time and effort into this project/experiment,while others at least supported it with their comments and feedback. Besides Phillip 1882, Yourself and Myself, there are Turtle, Donk, Modest,Kharakov, Pyrotex, IDMclean, Craig D, Qfwfq, Rade, JMJ Jones 0424, Jay Q,and if I forgot anybody, well, they know who they are. Many people are afraid of things that are new and threaten the status quo. Then again, many people are simply not bright enough to understand certain results. Also, there are those who are simply dishonest and loath to acknowledge anyone's success... exept their own! :lol: Don. Quote
phillip1882 Posted January 14, 2011 Author Report Posted January 14, 2011 a day and a half in and i can confirm donk's result for 10^11. current status? roughly 10^11 +10^10. Turtle 1 Quote
Don Blazys Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 I will edit and update this post as Phillip 1882's results come in. The third column shows the predicted values of [math]\varpi(x)[/math] based onthe best current physical measurements of [math]\alpha[/math] which Wikipedia gives as being between [math]137.035999033^{-1}[/math] and [math]137.035999135^{-1}[/math]. Note that by the time we get to [math]x=10^{13}[/math], the predicted values of [math]\varpi(x)[/math]will vary by about plus or minus 30, whereas at present, they only vary by about plus or minus 3. The fourth column shows the values that result when we solve for [math]\alpha[/math] in: [math]B(x)*\left(1-\frac{\alpha}{\mu-2*e}\right)=\left(x-\frac{x}{\alpha*\pi*e+e}-\frac{1}{2}*\sqrt{x-\frac{x}{\alpha*\pi*e+e}}\right)*\left(1-\frac{\alpha}{\mu-2*e}\right)[/math] Note that the fluctuations are slowly decreasing and that these values of [math]\alpha[/math]seem to be converging on some particular value. _______[math]x[/math]____________[math]\varpi(x)[/math]_______[math]B(x)*\left(1-\frac{\alpha}{\mu-2*e}\right)[/math]________[math]\alpha[/math]________ 100,000,000,000_____64,036,148,166______64,036,147,783_________137.03593392608^-1200,000,000,000_____128,072,369,864_____128,072,369,683________137.03598372618^-1300,000,000,000_____192,108,604,710_____192,108,603,778________137.03594625176^-1400,000,000,000_____256,144,844,029_____256,144,844,185________137.03600571478^-1500,000,000,000_____320,181,088,566_____320,181,088,626________137.03600111220^-1600,000,000,000_____384,217,336,898_____384,217,335,932________137.03597169223^-1700,000,000,000_____448,253,585,852_____448,253,585,409________137.03598831869^-1800,000,000,000_____512,289,836,587_____512,289,836,605________137.03599946950^-1900,000,000,000_____576,326,089,252_____576,326,089,206________137.03599821781^-11,000,000,000,000___640,362,343,980_____640,362,342,983________137.03598213253^-11,100,000,000,000___704,398,597,754_____704,398,597,764________137.03599923616^-11,200,000,000,000___768,434,854,386_____768,434,853,414________137.03598530327^-11,300,000,000,000___832,471,110,338_____832,471,109,826________137.03599238683^-11,400,000,000,000___896,507,366,959_____896,507,366,915________137.03599854497^-11,500,000,000,000___???,???,???,???1,600,000,000,000___???,???,???,???1,700,000,000,000___???,???,???,???1,800,000,000,000___???,???,???,???1,900,000,000,000___???,???,???,???2,000,000,000,000___???,???,???,??? 10,000,000,000,000__?,???,???,???,???___6,403,626,165,690+/-30____???.????????????^-1 Turtle 1 Quote
freeztar Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 thanks freeztar.12 hours in and i'm a little over half way to 10^11. i'm storing every million count to a file which has now grown to be 1.2 MB in size. Prognosticating a 250MB file, at least...... Quote
freeztar Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 Quoting Freeztar: Your support is much appreciated Freeztar! But to be fair, we must also remember that some Hypographersput in a lot of time and effort into this project/experiment,while others at least supported it with their comments and feedback. Besides Phillip 1882, Yourself and Myself, there are Turtle, Donk, Modest,Kharakov, Pyrotex, IDMclean, Craig D, Qfwfq, Rade, JMJ Jones 0424, Jay Q,and if I forgot anybody, well, they know who they are. Many people are afraid of things that are new and threaten the status quo. Then again, many people are simply not bright enough to understand certain results. Also, there are those who are simply dishonest and loath to acknowledge anyone's success... exept their own! :lol: Don. I've always been a fan of Don and what you are trying to do here. :) Unfortunately, It seems I'm always on the learning end of the rhomboid when it comes to mathematics. Hence I do the only logical thing and explore figurates. ;) Turtle 1 Quote
phillip1882 Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Posted January 16, 2011 well half way into day four and i'm at 2*10^11 roughly. thanks to don's recent post here i can confirm this number.this is going slower than i hoped. i started off at about a million a half second, i am now at a million every two seconds, and it will go slower as i progress. Turtle 1 Quote
Don Blazys Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 Even if it takes a few extra weeks to reach [math]10^{13}[/math],the effort will have been well worth it, because by then, post #6 in this thread will have 100 entries that we can thenanalize in all sorts of ways. (Graphs, correlation coefficients, etc.) It will be a milestone, because by then, it should be relatively clear as to whether or not the counting function itself is in fact complete and the difference of plus or minus 30 in the prediction column may even be sufficient for us to hazzard an educated guess as to whether or not the actual value of the FSC is above or below [math]137.035999084^{-1}[/math], which is the median value given by Wikipedia. Mother nature does not easily give up her secrets, but if she did,then we would not be on this most exiting quest after the most mysterious number in all of science! Don. Quote
phillip1882 Posted January 19, 2011 Author Report Posted January 19, 2011 well day 6 here and I'm a little over 3*10^11. I'm thinking of taking a pause here to see if i can optimize the code any further. at this rate, 10^11 every 2 days, it would take roughly 200 days to get to 10^13. Quote
modest Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 It sounds like you're doing pretty damn well, Phillip. Can you post your current code? ~modest Quote
phillip1882 Posted January 19, 2011 Author Report Posted January 19, 2011 sure no problem modest. import time, math t0 = time.time() finish = 10**13 max = 10**6 current = max row = 10 column = 6 inc = 4 total = 0 array = list(range(6,max,3)) check = False file = open("numbers.txt","w") while column+inc <= finish: if column+inc >= current: array.sort() total += 1 for i in range(1,len(array)): if array[i] != array[i-1]: total += 1 file.write(str(current)+" "+str(total)+"\n") print(current,total) array = list(range(3*(int(current/3)+1),current+max+1,3)) current += max column = 6 inc = 4 row = column*int((current-max-(column+inc))/column +1)+column+inc check = True else: if check: array += list(range(row,current+1,column)) column += inc inc += 1 row = column*int((current-max-(column+inc))/column +1)+column+inc if inc %3 == 0: column += inc inc += 1 row = column*int((current-max-(column+inc))/column +1)+column+inc else: array += list(range(row,current+1,column)) column = row inc += 1 row += inc if inc%3 == 0: column = row inc += 1 row += inc array.sort() total +=1 for i in range(1,len(array)): if array[i] != array[i-1]: total += 1 t0 =time.time()-t0 print(total,t0) if anyone wants to help out, i would greatly apreciate it. (i really don't want to run my pc day and night for 200 days if i can avoid it.)basically, just change the value of current to something large (perferably 10^13-10^12) and run in python. also you can eliminate the if check else block, along with the check variable. this is for the sole case of being less than 1,000,000. also, there is a small possiblity you may run out of memory. if you do, jsut change the value of max to something smaller. 10^5 should be more than small enough. finnally, change the line:row = 10 to row = column*int((current-max-(column+inc))/column +1)+column+inc and place it below inc.and change the line array = list(range(6,current,3) toarray = list(range(3*(int(current/3)+1),current+max+1,3))apologies for not making my code more portable. :-) Quote
phillip1882 Posted January 22, 2011 Author Report Posted January 22, 2011 day 9 and i just passed the 4*10^11 mark. so far so good. Turtle 1 Quote
phillip1882 Posted January 26, 2011 Author Report Posted January 26, 2011 uh oh.i recently passed the 500,000,000 mark, and got a different number. i did have to pause the program, and restart my computer, and then re enter the program, so it may be a simple bug on my end.i trust donk's number, and mine is far off. so if i get a different number for 600,000,000 i may have to rethink my algorithm. Quote
freeztar Posted January 26, 2011 Report Posted January 26, 2011 How system intensive is the code? I've got an old PC I can employ, but it probably only has 256MB RAM and maybe a first generation P4 chip. Could this code be written so that it can be used in a distributed computing network? Turtle 1 Quote
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