HydrogenBond Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 In very general terms, people can be classified as introverts and extroverts. With extroverts, when their brain processes data, brain energy/current goes quickly to output devices, such as the voice box. With introverts, the same brain processing is diverted more away from output devices (voice box), into further thought. Does anyone know where the switching place is? Although an extrovert can stop talking and think, this takes will power since the brain wants to divert energy to the output devices (prefers to talk). Although an introvert can output data and talk for long periods of time, this may take some willpower since their output wants to divert inward. Maybe another example of the contrast would be a charismatic speaker. They can get a lot of output devices working due to the brain energy fully diverted to output devices. Besides good voice command for emotional modulation, there can also employ output devices connected to animated body language. The introvert may often sound more monotone, since there is less energy going into output devices and more into introverting. I was looking for the switching station to see if it is possible to change the current ratio since most people can consciously switch to either, but tend run on the cruise control using their natural switch position. Quote
joekgamer Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 Not neccesarily. Introvertion/extroversion has not been quantified, nor has some sort of 'switching station' ever been found. If anything, you'd find the decinding factors spread around in the behavioral part(s) of the brain. Quote
CraigD Posted March 24, 2011 Report Posted March 24, 2011 In very general terms, people can be classified as introverts and extroverts. With extroverts, when their brain processes data, brain energy/current goes quickly to output devices, such as the voice box. With introverts, the same brain processing is diverted more away from output devices (voice box), into further thought. HB, you seem to be assuming that introverts and extroverts (to use a scientifically measurable quantity, people who categorize as introverted or extraverted on the MBTI) have the same amount of “brain energy”, but “divert” it differently. You also seem to overlook the role of sensory input and the source of neural arousal in neurofuction and behavior. I don’t think this assumption and oversights are correct. To the best of my knowledge, there are two main psychological and neurological schools that much use the into-extraversion dichotomy/continuum: Jung, who first popularized the terms in a psychological context, and Hans Eysenck. Despite his fame and cultural impact, Jung and his ideas are IMHO less science than philosophy and mysticism, so let’s stick with Eysenck. According to Eysenck’s theory, extroverts don’t talk and otherwise express themselves more because they divert more brain energy to “output devices”, but because they require more stimulation from the outside world to be comfortably neurologically aroused. Introverts, contrastingly, are able to comfortably arouse themselves by thinking. In short, the theory holds that extroverts don’t need to talk more than introverts, they need to be responded to more than introverts. An introvert may actually be more talkative than an extrovert - the key distinction is that the introvert wants strongly to engage and interact with a listener, the introvert, less so. If Eysenck's theory is correct (as much so as psychological theories of personality can be), then your search for an intro-extro "diverter switch" is misguided. A good synopsis of this, and a starting place for lookup terms and references, is this wikipedia section. Quote
HydrogenBond Posted March 25, 2011 Author Report Posted March 25, 2011 I know people who are extroverts, that talk so much there is no room for external stimulaus from others, since the otherd can't get a word in edgewise. The stimulation they get is from their own voice. The other person is there for an excuse to talk, since talking to onself is sort of weird. The introvert does something similar with internal dialogue. Quote
Sci Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 I know people who are extroverts, that talk so much there is no room for external stimulaus from others, since the otherd can't get a word in edgewise. The stimulation they get is from their own voice. The other person is there for an excuse to talk, since talking to onself is sort of weird. The introvert does something similar with internal dialogue. The audience of an extrovert is rather an "at large" and faceless one, for it is more like a performance. Don't if they do well one on one, but introverts usually do, unless too much introverted. Quote
HydrogenBond Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Posted March 26, 2011 In my own experiences and observations, introverts tend to have a lower sensory overload limit. Sensory input will roll around the brain. This can get confused with too much input. With an extrovert the sensory input leads to output, with stronger sensory input meaning better output. For example, an introvert might prefer one-on-one conversation. The extrovert can often do better than an introvert if there are many people talking at the same time. The introvert has to deal with the internal loop, which get confused if there is too much input. The extrovert will talk louder since higher input allows for higher output. Animals tend to be more extroverted sinc their output reaction is based on sensory input. There is usually less time delay for action due to the input rolling around in the brain like the introvert. If you look at all the hyper disorders, these tend to go in the direction of extroversion. There is a strong input-output loop that resonates. The meds appears to activate the switch back to more internal looping. Quote
granpa Posted July 6, 2013 Report Posted July 6, 2013 Extraverts are mainly concerned with external appearance while introverts are more concerned with the underlying reality. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraversion_and_introversion The trait of extraversion–introversion is a central dimension of human personality theories. The terms introversion and extraversion were first popularized by Carl Jung,[1] although both the popular understanding and psychological usage differ from his original intent. Extraversion tends to be manifested in outgoing, talkative, energetic behavior, whereas introversion is manifested in more reserved and solitary behavior Jung defined introversion as an "attitude-type characterised by orientation in life through subjective psychic contents" (focus on one's inner psychic activity); and extraversion as "an attitude type characterised by concentration of interest on the external object", (the outside world). Quote
granpa Posted July 9, 2013 Report Posted July 9, 2013 Extraverts are mainly concerned with external appearance while introverts are more concerned with the underlying reality. Extroverts are energized by crowds. Introverts worry that crowds will judge them by their appearance and therefore become drained of energy Quote
Ken Posted July 11, 2013 Report Posted July 11, 2013 In my own experiences and observations, introverts tend to have a lower sensory overload limit. Sensory input will roll around the brain. This can get confused with too much input. With an extrovert the sensory input leads to output, with stronger sensory input meaning better output. For example, an introvert might prefer one-on-one conversation. The extrovert can often do better than an introvert if there are many people talking at the same time. The introvert has to deal with the internal loop, which get confused if there is too much input. The extrovert will talk louder since higher input allows for higher output. Animals tend to be more extroverted sinc their output reaction is based on sensory input. There is usually less time delay for action due to the input rolling around in the brain like the introvert. If you look at all the hyper disorders, these tend to go in the direction of extroversion. There is a strong input-output loop that resonates. The meds appears to activate the switch back to more internal looping. Do you have any actual data to support these statements? An Operational Definition of either Introvert or Extrovert? JMJones0424 1 Quote
DFINITLYDISTRUBD Posted July 18, 2013 Report Posted July 18, 2013 Do you have any actual data to support these statements? An Operational Definition of either Introvert or Extrovert?I don't know about the animals but the first two at least from an introverts view point look pretty close to spot on. Quote
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