BEAKER Posted May 23, 2005 Report Posted May 23, 2005 Boy you guys are gettin' pretty insulting.:note:
infamous Posted May 23, 2005 Report Posted May 23, 2005 Boy you guys are gettin' pretty insulting.:note:I agree BEAKER; I think we should be trying to encourage others instead of cutting their legs out form under them.
C1ay Posted May 23, 2005 Report Posted May 23, 2005 Boy you guys are gettin' pretty insulting.:note:No, I really wasn't being insulting. Emtee's spelling speaks for itself. Calling the kettle black is not insulting the kettle, it's only pointing out what is. In addition, his language skills remind me of those I'd expect from a youngster.
BEAKER Posted May 23, 2005 Report Posted May 23, 2005 No, I really wasn't being insulting. Emtee's spelling speaks for itself. Calling the kettle black is not insulting the kettle, it's only pointing out what is. In addition, his language skills remind me of those I'd expect from a youngster.I concur.:note: Poor MT.
Little Bang Posted May 23, 2005 Report Posted May 23, 2005 For the first fifteen hundred years of christianty (1453 or1454) we had no bible. The teachings were handed down from word of mouth, and that got edited pretty heavly when the dead scrolls were discovered in the 1930 or 40. guess who edited what psrts of the scrolls were to be add to the bible, the Priests.
C1ay Posted May 23, 2005 Report Posted May 23, 2005 For the first fifteen hundred years of christianty (1453 or1454) we had no bible. The teachings were handed down from word of mouth, and that got edited pretty heavly when the dead scrolls were discovered in the 1930 or 40. guess who edited what psrts of the scrolls were to be add to the bible, the Priests.Can you provide any links to support that? It would seem to me that something had to be written down even if it wasn't compiled into a volume. It is my understanding that most of the books of the new testament were written around 30 years AD. Then again, I'm not bible scholar by any means.
BEAKER Posted May 23, 2005 Report Posted May 23, 2005 For the first fifteen hundred years of christianty (1453 or1454) we had no bible. The teachings were handed down from word of mouth, and that got edited pretty heavly when the dead scrolls were discovered in the 1930 or 40. guess who edited what psrts of the scrolls were to be add to the bible, the Priests.In the first place; it's the Dead Sea Scrolls - not the dead scrolls; because they were found in caves by the "dead sea". secondly those scrolls were in very good condition considering they were over a thousand years old, and had many of the very passages in our current bible, and were exactly the same, with the possible exception of a slightly different spelling of a word and other minor varriations. Secondly, the old testament has been painstakingly coppied by hand; by jewish scribes whose job it was to make sure that the copy was exactly like the original since the time moses wrote the penatuch - (2000 bc or so). Thirdly we have more bits and peices and entire sections of text, of manuscripts dating back to the first century (and shortly thereafter) of the new testament than any other book that old known to man. The idea that what we have today is different than the original is nothing more than a myth.:)
Biochemist Posted May 23, 2005 Report Posted May 23, 2005 For the first fifteen hundred years of christianty (1453 or1454) we had no bible. The teachings were handed down from word of mouth, and that got edited pretty heavly when the dead scrolls were discovered in the 1930 or 40. guess who edited what psrts of the scrolls were to be add to the bible, the Priests.Not quite true. We had no production printing until Gutenberg started it, but there were plenty of hand written Biblical texts. The oldest extant Old Testament texts (before the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls) were the Masoretic texts. They date back to about 900 AD. There are earlier codexes (bound documents) as well, but none that are complete OT texts. The earliest extant New Testament texts are older. For almost all New Testament books, we have examples from at or before the fourth century. They were not complied into a published New Testament document until 1516, the first complete (greek) edition of the New testament in one book.
Biochemist Posted May 23, 2005 Report Posted May 23, 2005 ...It is my understanding that most of the books of the new testament were written around 30 years AD. ...Most New Testament texts were written from about 70 AD to about 120 AD. Most of the originals were written on papyrus, which does not hold up particularly well over time. We have about 30-40 documents from the second century that represent portions of the New Testament. The oldest document is thought to be from about AD 125 (a copy of the Gospel of John)
eMTee Posted May 23, 2005 Author Report Posted May 23, 2005 I supose that this is not evidence enough that the Bible is a strangly consistent and unique book, unlike any other book in the world?
Queso Posted May 23, 2005 Report Posted May 23, 2005 i think the bible sucks. my opinion does nothing but stir emotions.
BEAKER Posted May 23, 2005 Report Posted May 23, 2005 my opinion does nothing but stir emotions.:) stirrr this.
Queso Posted May 23, 2005 Report Posted May 23, 2005 k thanks beaker! :) :D (move thread back on topic....)
bumab Posted May 23, 2005 Report Posted May 23, 2005 i think the bible sucks. my opinion does nothing but stir emotions. I'm curious about this Orb. You've said something to this affect many times- have you read it? Or, have you read at least the New Testament?
Queso Posted May 23, 2005 Report Posted May 23, 2005 that was pretty much a random post that seemed to make sense at the time, now that i'm at school and i'm looking at it i totally forget why i posted that. yes i've read it, though. is it true the "new" testament was written 2000 or so years ago? (i believe i saw biochemist say something like this in another thread recently, i just forget what....gosh, me and my forgetfullness)
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